SexismAn Afghan woman who doesn't want to wear the burqa but is forced to. If God wanted women to live this way, all female babies would be born covered, not naked...
BigotryA displaced child in Kandahar. Innocence pays the highest price at the hands of intolerance...
ChivalryA little Afghan boy trying to get a glimpse of his mum's face from underneath her veil. This boy demonstrates the natural and unadulterated instincts of any humanbeing...the need to look and the right to be seen...
ApathyThe Maristou Red Cross Center for the mentally handicapped in Kandahar where Istmatullah has spent the last 30 years with his leg tethered by a chain at the ankle. Aren't the mentally-ill humans, humans too?
MisanthropyA hospital wall splattered and smeared in blood that blends in with hospital disinfectant or possibly paint from a 'diversion grenade' and religious inscriptions in Arabic in the room in the ward where six Arab fighters were killed in an attack directed by US Special Forces and led by Afghan soldiers at the Mirwais Hospital in Kandahar. It's quite visible that every human's blood is red after all...
DestitutionAn Afghan woman driven to poverty as a result of war, sits by the roadside with her infant, as she begs for alms. A baby's life unravels in the streets of Kandahar...
SlaveryZarghona 15, lies in a Peshawar shelter, burned by her father-in-law,
who said she had not cleaned her husband's clothes properly. If women were objects of manipulation, then men must be manipulators...
PersuasionAn armed Mujahideen child holds an AK-47 assault rifle and is ready to fight. An exploited childhood with a bleak future. A Gun is what this child would replace Courage with...
ChauvinismThis is an Afghan woman driven to prostitution as a result of war and poverty, with her only belongings wheeled around by her everywhere she goes. She lives in fear of being burnt to death by men (as many women have been before) as prostitution is a deadly sin/serious crime according to sectarian beliefs. Would strong beliefs of some people satiate her hunger?
Misogyny
Gulbibi Sale Mohammed 13, cuddles with the young son of a fellow resident inside a shelter run by Women Activities & Social Services in Afghanistan. Gulbibi was married as a prepubescent although she doesn't remember at what age, and was beaten extenisively by her brother while growing up. Does being a woman equate to a mistake?
Fragility of the mind that leads to manipulation of others, does not bring peace and happiness to anyone. Controlling others and living by violence depicts a very brittle mind. Strangely enough, the 'unbreakable' nature of such 'brittle' mindsets is what is hard to understand. How long, how much more, how many more, how far, how?
Your thoughts on this post will be greatly appreciated. Also, if you don't agree with anything I said here, please speak up. Thanks! Today's song is one of my fav Arabic songs (this video comes with English subs).
Current Music: Tamally Ma'ak by Amr Diab
290 Cranium Signets:
First of all, are these random pics or its taken by someone out there??
hey Ankur :)
They r all REAL pics with REAL STORIES behind them...taken by journalists in Kandahar.
None of these pics tell lies.
Keshi.
btw I did alot of Research for this post. I found some of these same pics in many Human Rights and Womens' Rights web sites.
Keshi.
God! this is so sad!
I know keshi...what u mean... and the fact that we can't break fragile mind and that it has a strength of its own...is beyond my understanding..
with no place to run-away... I would want to die than be in such a situation :(
I don't know..when it will be alright for these women!
no, i didnt mean to say that these pics tell lie, but y i asked is that sometimes we can read it differently... So i did ask as u asked us to be honest!! :)
Now to tell you the fact, i have always hated a society where women arent treated equally to men!! Ppl say i dream of Utopia, then yes, i do!!
An egalitarian society is what i dream of! I have never understood that how men think that they are over and above everything!!!
At times, its understandable, but when its there just to prove superiority over the other Gender and that too proving them inferior, its kinda insulting!!!
We all care for women in our lives, not that we dont, and coz of the society we sometimes ask them to come back home early(thats with my sis), but thats because the ppl out there can do anything!!!
Your questions really dont have an answer, atleast to me!!! Its upto the woman and all the ppl who think they are literate to liberate the women!!
Being women cant be a crime, its a virtue!!! And u know this Burka thing is just forced to poor ppl or ppl who are illiterate, the ppl who belong to the upper class, have u seen them wear Burqa's??? In pubs or some match, do they find girls wearing all this???
I was talkin to a fellow blogger one day and i told her that humanity is over and above every religion.. and then she said, no my religion is above everything!!!
I laughed, replied but it wasnt published, but my question is that if u follow a book of ur religion, is it written there to use Internet!!!
I dont think so???
U only follow what has been preached by few who want to prove their dominance in this world, As MEN!!!!
Manliness doesnt come with beating of women or making them wear Burqas or dont letting them come out of homes (talking abt every religion)....
Woman is not weak, but she has the power of forgiveness which is really misunderstood by us men as weakness!!
And i agree to u completely Keshi.. when u say.. ITS THE MINDSET, THE PEOPLE who are to be blamed, NOT THE RELIGION, coz it cant ask to harm others!!!!
Seriously, i feel ashamed that there are men who do this... and as a part of the same gender grp i take the responsibilty and accept that yes, mistakes are being made... and somehow i am doing my part so that i dont remain a part of it!! :)
Lets pray that all human will be treated equally someday!
Amen!
Superb Post!
Cheers!!!
It's a harsh, harsh world. It's more than religion, I think. It's the people behind the religion (not to mention the governments).
bloody hell - i just spilt pumpkin soup all over my laptop :(
but anyways it's horrible isn't it....
as i have said before women are the biggest minority in the world and it doesn't look like it's changing quickly enough. I wonder if they realise that without women these fuckers who create these sad circumstances for the women wouldn't have even been born - yet they treat them worse than dirt.
by the way -this song was the basis for one of my fave hindi songs ever "Kaho na kaho" from Murder...it has the original arabic lyrics in it as well...
Amen!
Right on the mark!
fi
ty Veenz u got what I meant by the title..ur spot on!
**I would want to die than be in such a situation :(
There so many Afghan women who commit suicide on a daily basis..some do it cos they say
'it's better to die than to be RAPED'
Which apparently happens quite alot!
Keshi.
hey Ankur!
** And u know this Burka thing is just forced to poor ppl or ppl who are illiterate, the ppl who belong to the upper class, have u seen them wear Burqa's??? In pubs or some match, do they find girls wearing all this???
o yes! Here in Aus and in Sri Lanka, the very wealthy and educated Muslim women still wear the Burqa. There r so many such women I know Ankur. Some wear it cos they believe in it, some wear it cos they r forced to.
**and then she said, no my religion is above everything!!!
That is a FRAGILE mind, IMO.
**that if u follow a book of ur religion, is it written there to use Internet!!!
haha good one!
ty Ankur u make great sense!
Keshi.
yes ur right Menchie..it's PEOPLE who do this, not FAITH.
Keshi.
ty Silvara!
Im sorry abt ur soup :)
**before women are the biggest minority in the world and it doesn't look like it's changing quickly enough
I so agree. we can argue so much abt this, but Women will always be seeing as the MINORITY. Sadly.
yes this is the original song behind 'Kaho Na Kaho' - also one of my favs :)
*HUGZ*
Keshi.
ty Bev!
Keshi.
Good Keshi, It is important to highlight such issues. Afghanistan, is a such a beautiful place, but somehow got caught in the midst of war, hatred and suffering. It's a very sad state of affairs, that even now due to the interests of certain people, it still struggles to find peace.
In a way it can be said that Afghanistan will regain peace only when Women of Afghanistan are at peace.
this somehow perfectly defines d hypocrisy of us men...we want to live free...but if someone else tries to v pull em down...make them go on their knees n beg for being treated as humans...this is not a new phenomenon..its always been thr since d time of jesus...
**sexism
d same men keep harems!!!
**bigotry
r v building our future or destroyin it??
**chivalry
** natural and unadulterated instincts of any humanbeing...the need to look and the right to be seen
so aptly put...n so beautifully depicted!!!
**apathy
hypocrisy again...or is it d fear of d different??
**misanthropy
humanity at its lowest!!!
**destitution
fight for survival!!
**slavery
d deepest darkest trench of humanity!!
**persuasion
false bravado!!
**chauvinism
**Would strong beliefs of some people satiate her hunger?
d evil looks...d hungry eyes to satiate their own hunger!!!
**misogyny
death???
that was a beautiful piece keshi...u always manage to leave d other person speechless...always smthn dat touches d right chord...smthn dat stirs smthn inside!!!
HMMMM
someone once said that that a country shud be considered civilized only by the safety and welfare of its women....that is the yard stick by which civilization shud be measured...if the women are safe , they are treated with respect and if their needs are met and they are happy...then everything is fine in the world....they are the mothers, the wifes, the sisters, the daughters...they are the true indicators....
going by that....few of the countries are wht they claim they are....its a shame
These images are painful...ut they are a reality. We have seen them in some form or the other even in India, sad to say. Persecution of women as they are the inferior gender is something which is worldwide. It is probably worse in Afghanistan because of the current political situation there. Sometimes animals are treated better than thew way they treat their humans.
I remember reading a first hand account of an American woman (and her daughter)'s escape from Iran via Afghanistan. They had to wear burkhas there, and the one thing which stood out was that she said he burkhas were absolutely filthy with mucous and spit and blood all on it, only because the women were forced to wear the brukha and most of them could only afford one.
religion had become less about god and more about control- women, children and men. About being better than another.
Hi Keshi.. I always feel that I am so lucky to be born at a place where people around me know to respect women.. People look at me and treat me as human being..
Picture are sad representation of how some human being can be so inhuman!
PS: I could not find NEWER section in the comments section of “When You Marry Yourself”*embarrassed*. Can you please give link to me, bcs I m quite curious to read ur reply on it :)
:) IF i were intense in my expression my expression here, i would get killed.
i cant comment on this post without abusing or blaming people responsible.
besides, it is only my opinion.
"opinions are assholes, everyone has one. what comes out is only shit"- by one of my friends.
i don't see the point of 'feeling' for a cause and doing nothing about it.
ty Srijith!
**Afghanistan, is a such a beautiful place, but somehow got caught in the midst of war, hatred and suffering...
true. Same story in Sri Lanka.
Keshi.
ty Mayz!
Im glad u took up all those points to comment on. Shows u really read the posts well and understand em well too.
**hypocrisy again...or is it d fear of d different??
I think it's the FEAR of the Different. And thats v sad. When I saw that old man's face, he had more FEAR in it than anyone else!
Keshi.
Stygian hmmm means?
Keshi.
ty Tys!
**someone once said that that a country shud be considered civilized only by the safety and welfare of its women
So true!
Look at all the countries that suffer...the women in those countries r never given the freedom that they deserve!
Well-said Tys!
Keshi.
See what the hunger+greed for staying in power can do?
Its like seeing dark age to be relived.
Who said the world is progressing at the speed of thought?
This I feel is not just pertaining to Afghanistan or some under developed nation, it is every where.
ty SMM!
** Persecution of women as they are the inferior gender is something which is worldwide
so true. Even in the developed nations, Women arent often seen as INDIVIDUALS, rather as SEX objects.
**dirty burqas
ewwwwwwwwww really???? thats so v sad!!!!!
Keshi.
ty LaVida!
**About being better than another.
so v true! It has become a competition than a spiritual path.
Keshi.
true Prachi, I feel so fortunate too...compared to millions of women n children that suffer in some nations!
Keshi.
btw Prachi I left that link in ur blog :)
Keshi.
ty Stygian!
**besides, it is only my opinion.
so who's opinion is it that u think really matters?
ofcourse this post is also only MY opinion..but I see alot of ppl agreeing with it. W.O. expressing opinions we'll never know if we r blind or not.
"opinions are assholes, everyone has one. what comes out is only shit"-
not always. Some opinions take us places.
**i don't see the point of 'feeling' for a cause and doing nothing about it.
U dun always have to get out there and be a Humanitarian worker in Kandahar to feel u hv DONE something abt it Stygian. Deeds can be in the form of Words and shared Discussions too.
Besides that itself is an Opinion u just made. :)
Keshi.
Some OPINIONS open ppl's EYES.
@Stygian.
Keshi.
yes Tarun these r sad results of a mad Power struggle.
**Who said the world is progressing at the speed of thought?
ur absolutely right! How can the world be progressing when some ppl dun even STOP to feel the pain of another. As long as they r not suffering, they dun care!
Keshi.
what place did it take me to? :)
there is nothing to be achieved by discussing. it isn going to set things right
Stygian..
**what place did it take me to? :)
Ur not the only one who's reading this! This may not take u ANYWHERE, cos u dun CARE anyways.
**there is nothing to be achieved by discussing. it isn going to set things right
Thats your OPINION btw.
Keshi.
If nothing is achieved by Discussing, I wonder why this world has Unis and Schools! @Stygian.
Keshi.
Besides, maybe u dun like to Discuss things like this, but there r others who do. @Stygian
Keshi.
Stygian mebbe u never heard of Exposure, Awareness and Learning?
Keshi.
schools and univs teach...crap mostly.
Socrates never had his method validated.
*Besides, maybe u dun like to Discuss things like this, but there r others who do. *
i was never about 'others' :)
and think you are falling short of ways to convince me
Stygian
**schools and univs teach...crap mostly.
if schools and unis were crap, u wudnt hv been able to TYPE that comments right now. U'd be an illiterate...and u wont be knowing who Socrates is either! Neither wud u hv been a doc.
**and think you are falling short of ways to convince me
Wut makes u think Im trying to CONVINCE u? :) Not at all.
My only qn to u was, why d u express well in ur blog but never in my blog in ur comments.
Now its u who's falling short of ways to convince me!
Keshi.
**that COMMENT right now
No worries Stygian. Dun EXPRESS. Continue being rigid!
Keshi.
btw ur scared of ppl bashing u up if u comment on this topic? LOL very manly Stygian!
Keshi.
*if schools and unis were crap, u wudnt hv been able to TYPE that comments right now. U'd be an illiterate...and u wont be knowing who Socrates is either! Neither wud u hv been a doc.*
thats the truth.
i would have been the nomad, with no house, no money, no people. i wouldn had to bother about the next bomb blast cos i might be in that :)
Tragedy highlighted.But then dominance by one half of humankind continues to happen for some on the streets,as depicted by your pics and for some within the four walls,which is unseen..thats the tragedy one gets shackled on to...
tc
cu
Stygian..
**i would have been the nomad, with no house, no money, no people. i wouldn had to bother about the next bomb blast cos i might be in that
see how a different OPINION took u to a different PLACE. :)
U know u dun HAVE to comment in my posts if u hv nothing to say or if u dun wanna say anything.
I only asked u why u dun express as much over here. Thats all. tnxx!
Keshi.
ty CU!
**dominance by one half of humankind continues to happen for some on the streets,as depicted by your pics and for some within the four walls,which is unseen
Spot on! U brought up a new dimension of the same problem.
Keshi.
i would rather run away ;)
Running away is wut alot of ppl do Stygian. Not FACING em.
Keshi.
ok :)
Stygian its not a reason to smile, neither it is a joke.
Anyways to each his own.
Mebbe I should be as stiff as u r when I comment in ur blog? :)
Keshi.
Keshi,
thanks for the jolt...we at times become to complacent and believe the world is just the one that we see immediately.
Wish I could rush out and do something for those women and children...
I wish someone would read out the Koran again to those guys and point out the fact that its one of the most peace loving religions in the world...its just been manipulated to mean something else.
I dont know I have a sort of respect and Kind a like these afghani and especially the pathans .........all the bad things apart and arabic music as well AMR diab is a good singer I dont know if you heard CHEB mami ..he is tooooooooo good
i get comments. that in itself is a big deal. you want to be stiff, it is your call.
well, said... gal...
change needs time...hope time will deliver for the afghans...
@Stygian
**i would have been the nomad, with no house, no money, no people. i wouldn had to bother about the next bomb blast cos i might be in that
Do you think that ppl wanna be a part of it???
they wanted to be in the bomb blast which took place in front of Indian Embassy yesterday where 3 people were killed??
Do you think you can have a choice either??
Do you think that running away will do and then you wont be a part of this??
My dear friend, accept or dont, me and you are a part of it!! Education is important for human race developements coz it teaches u a lot many things... :)
Cheers!!!
ty Pinku!
**thanks for the jolt...we at times become to complacent and believe the world is just the one that we see immediately.
Amen to that! Stygian above was telling me that writing abt these things dun take anyone anywhere! And Pinku now that u said the above, I feel something is achieved. :) tnxx!
I hv never read the Quran..but I believe any Religion/Faith cant and wont teach hatred and violence against women.
Keshi.
hey Badshah!
**I dont know I have a sort of respect and Kind a like these afghani and especially the pathans .........all the bad things apart...
wut d u mean u hv RESPECT, and for WHO? And what's Pathans? And all the BAD things apart??
Yes I love Amr Diab's songs...hvnt heard of the one u mentioned. Will check it out soon. tnxx :)
Keshi.
Hi Keshi,
I accept the fact the you've done a lot and research and do not doubt it. But most of Human Rights organizations report all the illtreatement occurs in Afghanistan and Pakistan but do they report the same in Abu Ghraib, Iraq, Guantanamo Bay, Israeli occupied palestine terrotary and Kosovo. I do not think so.
Why do most of the people think about Islam whenever one talk about females being ill treat. The thing that comes into mind is a "lady wearing burqa" and not "women who are buried at birth" in India.
It is partly a prejudice towards Islam by Westerners (some, not all) and the so called Human rights organizations and some educated people as well.
Do you know that Islam is the first and only religion that talks about "the rights of a woman". Further, do you know that lowest rate of child abuse and rape is in Middle East and not the socalled countires whic have womens rights (US, UK and Aussie).
Further, in SL whenever a crime is committed in people say the punishments should be like Saudia to reduce crimes.
Regards, Irshad
P.S - Never trust the human rights organizations.Those are funded by UK and co and they work to the donors agenda.
Stygian to be honest Im so bored with ur rigidity! pls dun be sound so PLASTIC...its annoying.
Keshi.
ty Devil!
And plz tell me ur not going anywhere? :(
Keshi.
ty Ankur!
**Do you think you can have a choice either??
Do you think that running away will do and then you wont be a part of this??
Amen to that!
**My dear friend, accept or dont, me and you are a part of it!! Education is important for human race developements coz it teaches u a lot many things.
Spot on Ankur!
Stygian is in denial. :)
Keshi.
damn cool! you aare annoyed. i like it. :)
time for a drink.
cheers.
This is very sad that such things still persist. I dont wanna talk feminism, have talked enough in my post. I just pray things change for the better.
ty Irshad!
** But most of Human Rights organizations report all the illtreatement occurs in Afghanistan and Pakistan but do they report the same in Abu Ghraib, Iraq, Guantanamo Bay, Israeli occupied palestine terrotary and Kosovo. I do not think so.
I hv seen alot of Guantanamo Bay/Iraq abuse being reported too irshad. Sometimes the journalists dun get the access they need to report abt em.
**Why do most of the people think about Islam whenever one talk about females being ill treat. The thing that comes into mind is a "lady wearing burqa" and not "women who are buried at birth" in India.
No one said this is abt ISLAM. I did put up a Disclaimer stating its abt Mindsets and not Religion.
While this post highlights Muslim women, I hv also spoken abt Indian women who suffer at the hands of the Dowry system, few posts down. Each of my posts can only speak of one topic.
**It is partly a prejudice towards Islam by Westerners (some, not all) and the so called Human rights organizations and some educated people as well.
Nope, I dun think so. If a woman is being ill-treated, then she is. Nothing more, nothing less. Isnt it Irshad?
Islam comes into the picture here, cos its only Muslim women who hv to wear the Burqa. And yes most Westerners will find that as unfair on women. Is it wrong to speak out abt that Irshad?
Why not see it at a HUMANITY level, than at a RELIGION level?
**Do you know that Islam is the first and only religion that talks about "the rights of a woman". Further, do you know that lowest rate of child abuse and rape is in Middle East and not the socalled countires whic have womens rights (US, UK and Aussie).
Those r only stats Irshad. What abt the UNHEARD?
And really, no women in Aus/UK committs suicide in fear of being raped, which happens in alot of ME countries!
**Further, in SL whenever a crime is committed in people say the punishments should be like Saudia to reduce crimes.
This isnt abt Saudia. :)
**the human rights organizations.Those are funded by UK and co and they work to the donors agenda.
I dunno abt that..but atleast such organisations give a VOICE to ill-treated women!
Keshi.
Stygian, read Ankur's comment for ya!
Keshi.
ty Cindy!
Keshi.
Hi Keshi,
Sorry, I guess I was a bit too harsh. Pardon me for that. All in all a good post.
Hi,
I guess you are a bit free today. Swift replie to the posts.
That's much better.
Thnx,
No Irshad u werent being harsh.
U just took this as something against Islam, than seeing the real tragedy of all those women n children.
It happens alot of the time. ppl guard their religions at the cost of too many sufferings. what for?
Keshi.
Hi,
Thnx again for ur e-mail. I was so happy to receive one from the best blogger in the world.
Regards, Irshad
Irshad Im not the BEST blogger in the world. LOL!
Keshi.
Guys, if anyone here feels their EGO is too FRAGILE to contribute to this post, then please DONT.
tnxx everyone else, love ur input!
Keshi.
the stark reality of the present times
yes Rahul..and we keep saying the the world has PROGRESSED!
Keshi.
bad bad SAD...
hey Nirmal!
Keshi.
Hi
"Irshad Im not the BEST blogger in the world"
According me to you are.
lol Irshad no Im not!
U cant categorise bloggers as BEST, WORST etc.
Cos we r all writing posts based on personal experiences and exposure etc. So how can u measure excellence in that? :)
tnxx anyways!
Keshi.
btw Irshad u didnt ans my qn, which was:
** ppl guard their religions at the cost of too many sufferings. what for?
Keshi.
Hi,
Below is my personal opinion and it might and correct or it can be otherwise.
There are things that we attain in life by undergoing a lot of suffering.
Eg: Saving money to pay the mortgage for your dream home by reducing essential expenses.
Working harder to become the best player in a sports team.
Personally, I do not see wrong if the suffering is inflicted upon YOU and only you.
I think the worst of it all its done in the name of religion and God.
I think religion was meant to uplift,elevate,soothe and find a common goal.
Now the common goal is loot.
"Mooh mein ram buggel mein Chhoori."
Mean hailing God by keeping people/common masses on gun point.
Anarchy (in every form) is alive.
tnxx Irshad I agree.
But thats not what my qn meant. :)
Why is the suffering on OTHERS? Liek ill-treating women, and killing one another in the name of a belief?
Keshi.
ty Tarun!
**Mean hailing God by keeping people/common masses on gun point.
ur absolutely right there!
And sadly, its becomes a trend!
Keshi.
God....I don't know what to say!
really sad!
Hi,
On a personal perspective you cannot illtreat a woman (be it, ur mother, sister, daughter or wife). In Islam it says that you should gurad them and protect them. Provide them good education, teach good manners, Provide food, clothes and shelter. It does not say to ill treat.
The situation is misunderstood. It is similar to a Christian/Buddhist/Hind commiting adultry. Just becasue the commit adultry you cannot blame the religion but you should blame the person.
P.S - I know that you did not intend to hurt any religious segment. This is just an add on comment.
hey Anjuli I feel the same way!
I just feel luckier too...not to be at the hands of such stupid men.
Keshi.
tnxx Irshad, I agree.
**In Islam it says that you should gurad them and protect them. Provide them good education, teach good manners, Provide food, clothes and shelter. It does not say to ill treat.
Good to know that.
Keshi.
I think thats always been a trend, since time in memorial
yes Tarun...hurting others hv always been a TREND among Humans.
Keshi.
I agree Ankur. No RELIGION teaches to HURT someone. All religions teach LOVE.
Its ppl who muck em all ard, for SELF GAIN.
Keshi.
@Irshad
**The situation is misunderstood. It is similar to a Christian/Buddhist/Hind commiting adultry. Just becasue the commit adultry you cannot blame the religion but you should blame the person.
Agree, no religion can ever teach to hurt someone or to treat someone inferior on the basis of gender also!! :)
Cheers!!!
yes Keshi, religion is just a way to live!!!
I always see it like a path to live life! People have always used them for their favor!!!
@Stygian
And thats the reason precisely y edication and tat too correct education is important.. to teach ppl what religion is, wats wrong and wats right... When you have limited access to such knowledge the probability is much higher to do things which as per one's limited knowledge is right but is wrong when it comes to the greater cause.. the MANKIND!!! :)
Cheers!!!
ty Ankur!
**I always see it like a path to live life!
Spot on! It'a WAY OF LIFE. Not a book of RULES to follow at the cost of hurting ppl.
U show great wisdom here Ankur. ty for being the best!
Keshi.
**When you have limited access to such knowledge the probability is much higher to do things which as per one's limited knowledge is right but is wrong when it comes to the greater cause
so true!
Keshi.
:'(
Those people are no different from who we are... why do they have to go through all this???
This post is not aimed at insulting any religion/faith. It is aimed at fragile mindsets that thrive on manipulation. No religion is to be blamed, people are.
****Exactly, coz no religion persuades a follower to go to such levels, but yes selfish human brains do.
For me the worst sight is to see a child holding an AK-47 instead of book, having said so the one who holds that and ppl behind him wud always advocate the sentiments and reasons behind it, yet even if thats the case, even if u hv no choice but to raise ur weapon make sure its not by the future of the society atleast coz the moment he holds the weapon his soul is dented forever.
As far as ill-treating the women and old i hv seen that live many times during my stint in J&K and the only way to deal with such ppl, just pump some iron in their skull thats all.There is no other language they understand.
@ Ankur
Totally agree.
Regards, Irshad
I just finished reading Khalid Hosseni's book "a thousand Splendid suns", each picture reminded me of parts in that book which is about war lorn Afghanistan... the begging , prostitution and the ill treat ment and lost child hood :(
Awesome post!! the very small things we take for granted like a walk down the street is restricted there.. A lady cannot go out even for 2 mins without a man for company ...
Its not about religion, its just a mis interpretation for personal gains!!!
thanks a lot Keshi... the name of my lappy has always been WISDOM!!! :D
hehe ;)
You know its funny. The U.S attacked Afghanistan and Iraq with a view to "fix" the internal mess and "restore normalcy"... we all know that since the U.S attacks its only been downhill for both the countries. :(:(
I think politically, all nations are a bunch of cads to not be able to pressurize U.S to clean up its act! :(
And how exactly can Afghanistan disentangle itself from its present mess? There's great crisis looming large - sickness and incredible squalor. Its almost the formula for war crimes... brrr. On the other hand, U.S is full of bored people with surpluses of electricity, water, food and what not. It enrages me!
I really wish those international courts would be less of a joke. We really need national accountability. :(
ankur bhai, aap bade gyaani ho!
*My dear friend, accept or dont, me and you are a part of it!! Education is important for human race developments coz it teaches u a lot many things... :)*
we are part of it, true. but saying that and embracing what comes ones way is not what i can do. so i ll run away.
proplr who need to be educated are not educated. schools and univs cater to popular needs, not to the ones who are needy
*When you have limited access to such knowledge the probability is much higher to do things which as per one's limited knowledge is right but is wrong when it comes to the greater cause.. the MANKIND!!! :)*
the only greater or perhaps greatest cause i know is myself and my ego (keshi that was for you :))
Arghhh..Keshi,those photos tell their own story,and it's really disturbing..it always amazes me that on one side,we talk of the world moving more and more forward,and on the other,such incidents still occur.I don't think mindsets like burqa-cladding,are going to disappear in this century.Do you?
I just can't write anything,Keshi.
It leaves you sooo...dumbstruck!
Where we are living with a furnished house,a school/coll./job to look to,adoring parents and siblings...and blah..
there are so many round there...ISOLATED..MURDERED by their souls..PUNISHED for no mistakes of their own..
I can do nothing now.
When I do take up an initiative,I will be here to comment
very thought provoking..
n to an extent, disturbing..
not sure whether I'm feeling helpless as there's nothing much I can do to help.. or feeling silly for thinking that I'm going thru some unfair times..
Yaar, there are so many things around like these. All coz of the mind set of a small section of the society! At times, a very defeated feeling creeps in with the helplessness at such issues
These are not new, what to do, the same thing happens in iraq also and people are trying to live in hell here so that after their death they can live in heaven in the lap of the God. There are really educated people among them also and we don't know what will cure their mental attitude, 'coz education cannot. So, we need to find some new cure to people like these. One of the way, I think, is to stop injecting religion into kids mind and let them choose once they grow up.
BTW, The third pic, I don't think the kid is trying to see the face of his mother, he's playing with it and trying to hide his own face.
Shocking and disturbing images. But great post and research Keshi. Kudos!
stop it, ican stand it any more...
my humans! i hate 'em...why what lead to all this ? why lusty creatures can't keep themselves to themselves ? OH! break not your own walls,oh! humanity,use your voice,for a devils doesn't suit you...or is this truly you ?
Hi Keshi!
These days we frequently hear about wars... "the war against"/terrorism, drugs, corruption,crime,..,..,religion/.
Many "religious" people claim to be in sole possession of the "truth". If we don't believe /think/ exactly as they do, we are wrong in their eyes and they can even kill us for that.
It is sick mind, thought about "the absolute truth".
Whether they are in religious or other institutions, corporations, etc. they unable to look beyond their mind.
But many people are aware of the difference between religion and spirituality.
I really touched with the boy trying to sight her mom’s face. What a ban it must be shit. The fearless world for a child is only seeing there mothers face. Can’t they sense what does a face, without facing world?
"every human's blood is red after all" even then they fight, doesn’t know whether they are trying to change the color of nature what is unchangeable. My regret to those innocent people struggling to survive.
Hello Keshi!
bumped into your blog for the first time and now I'll definitely come back.So touching pictures and the stories behind them!
are you into journalism or something?
blogrolling you..
Cheers!
These photos and their stories make my heart sad. When are we going to help them?
Looking at these, I am glad I am born and grew up in India! I had such a eventless life compared to these children and women, I should be grateful for what I have and had.
keshi, this is very unfortunate but true state of some women :( ... pretty sad that’s the only thing I can say right now [no time/mood :(]... and about the fragility of those (in)human minds that cherish manipulation of the weak; hmmm … I guess its more than just those few minds … the roots of such acts would go deeper and the main reason can be attributed to the upbringing; values inculcated; lack of education (at times); incorrect expectations set etc. So to improve upon this; it has to be done at a very earlier level than the adults.
Couldn’t resist but say that you surely have a heart of gold that reaches out to a lot of suffering women … God bless you and hopefully you can make a difference someday in whatsoever way it can be …
This is not only prevalent in Afghanistan but worldwide.Many a discussion has been held on it and many are against it.But unless we actually do something,how would it end?
Standing up for such causes takes more than just courage.Many a voice has been silenced when it spoke up against such inhumanity,many a effort has been suppressed.And the innocent just continue to pay the price...
Keep up the good work girl!Hugsss
A very good post indeed.
Though this is exploitation at its extreme, it remains a small subset of people-exploiting-people. It's about who has the strength and mindset to exploit.
Some kings are known to have exploited/ tormented/ massacred their subjects, even in not-so-distant past.
The traditional landlords, with their muscle power, have been doing the same with poor farmers/ labourers.
The armies have been killing people and raping women of the defeated countries.
Now, coming to the sad part, the cruelest of kings/ landlords have had faithful informers who were supposed to be part of the tormented communities.
An army wins the opponent country on the strength of information gathered from officials of that opponent country.
I cannot help corelate the above with this post...
What is the role of mothers? Why don't they teach their sons that wives should be respected or atleast spared physical abuse? Why they themselves (in some cases) start tormenting daughters-in-law. Mother, who nurtures the child and shapes his future, can sure nip The Unbreakable Fragility in the bud.
What about a woman who seduces a man and instigates him to torment his wife, another woman? Such woman will get overwhelmed at the plight of women in Afghanistan, but will not pity her lover's wife (driven to madness, physical abuse, suicide etc). Haven't heard of this! I have.
Paradoxically, we wish to reach out to distant victims while continuing our acts of victimising.
Human beings, most of us, are selfish and can go to any extent to fulfil our legitimate and illegitimate desires. We don't do so for the fear of social disapproval, for fear of God or, as in most cases, because we are not powerful enough to exploit.
So much of this because we try to control the physical, the here, the now, instead of concentrating on the inner, the quest, the next.
What can I learn from this? ask with each confrontation with a challenge, be it an intensely distressing picture or a long-term situation.
From this, I learn that suffering has definitions and depths that I will never know, I can only hope that these women/people receive a comfort someday that far surpasses any that I need. It makes me want to comfort instead of seeking comfort.
quite a thoughtful post thr keshi!
hugs!
Hi Keshi,
Very thoughtful post..
Don't have words for it....
Why? Is the only question I have in my mind..
Nice to c ya after so long(rather I was absconding for past week!)
tc.
hey sweeeto, nothing like that i dont visit ur blog....
Afghanistan is in dire straits and its all courtesy the P....
ages old civil war has torn the country....and yesterday s attack on Indian embassy was the worst one in years...
i dont know what the so called "mullas" get out of imposing such hard rules on people on name of a religion....
and what fight they are fighting ? and for whom ? for women and children ? who become suicide bombers and kill hundreds of people...
Irshad : I dont agree with the talk over woman rights....absolutely not. this pics say it alll....dont they and the horror stories of taliban and SH say it all.......
in modern world orthodoxy and hard feelings over religion should not and cannot go for long....You gotta have liberal attitude and better example of it can be found in INDIA...where every religion co-exists and has huge freedom to follow !!!
KAP...
good research and you have defined the
"inhumanity" very well.
Now, about religion... i see a lot of frens explaining about religion, fanatics, riots etc... and something i have never been able to understand.
First thing, i am a hindu... studied in a christian school (methodist), have taken buddhist meditation "shivirs", where you stay for about a fortnight and do nothing but meditate (not even speak).
Read anything... the religious books or rather the books that show us the path, be it bible, koran, buddha or Gita... it has only one law-- the path to truth. So the idea of religion itself does not hold here. It is not the "ism" added after some prophet or lord that makes one person belong to sect. Religion is not to be held firmly by laws made by people; if it is so weak that it has to be binded by stupid beliefs, then there is no point in following any God, if one thinks the "god" or prophet or leader was so weak that we need to kill another human being to prove our leader superior, we are disgracing that one force (or energy or man or god) by trying to prove that the "way of life is wrong".
Whatever means we take, the word or Krishna or Buddha, the words that is written in bible or any holy book... no one says "praise me and kill others who dont", they all say one truth... "Know for yourself what is the best for you and give the best of yourself".
You dont need to apologise for any offence to any religion. Religion is a law made by the society so that ppl wont deviate from the goodness, it cannot be offended. and if they (ppl) have this a "riot ground", then you should not apologize for anything.
Well, nice post and i guess i became a bit incohherent.
babez
those were such a touchyy pictures.. i had seen them all.. well individually before.. but together they make sooo much more impact..
there is this instance .. well a good instance that I came across today. I was watching ibnlive.com and came across a news item. This was about a Village in Bihar which is one of the northern state in India. This village were building roads themselves because that was causing hindrance for their girls to get married off.. and since no proper roads or any kind of connectivity no grooms were coming to the village.
So what did the ppl do they built the roads.. so that 10 girls could get married off..
Sometimes all it takes is understanding and help from the ppl with whom you are living and then slowly everything will fall into place.
thats the link to that video
http://www.ibnlive.com/videos/68426/bihar-village-paves-wedding-path-for-its-girls.html
send me ur email id at desdemona.d@gmail.com, need to send u an invite, making my blog private.
So sad Keshi people r so badly tortured ..people who all these kinds of things should know the pain atleast once in their life time...u made me touched very much keshi ...thnks for the post yaar ..
urs..hemu..
phew.. am dead tired reading it top to down to down to all comments.. on an all, awesome post.. !!!
so relevant...well dun girl!!
btw...u wud b surprised to know tht ISLAM prescribes hijab...which means that one should cover d body n head, there is no mention of covering d face at all.also, d hijab is prescribed for both men n women
http://www.irf.net/irf/dtp/dawah_tech/mcqnm3.htm
visit if u wish to...
We are living in the 21st Century...
and it is unfortunate that people think and or act so drastically (to their convenience!)- marginalizing women, children, and the old. This happens EVERYWHERE, not just in Afghanistan.
It is important to speak up for those who can't...let it begin at home.
Hugs & Blessings
adding something:-
while committing atrocities on womenfolk, if only the men would keep in mind that their coming to this world is in fact indebted to womenkind..i'm sure all their hands would automatically stop.
also, d color of blood hardly matters keshi...if only people's hearts wouldn't turn black!!!
btw..replied to ur comment on g-man's blog...all for a healthy debate, mind u!!!
My heart broke.. In many pieces reading this.
WHY? is the question I keep on coming up with as tears ran down my face.
these dear women having to take what is thrown their way and with the kids looking on not knowing any better.
Nice post! and heart breaking! Yet so truthful!
Ne
goodness me.....i was disturbed seeing the pics.....feel so helpless.....grrrrrrrrrrrrr
:(
I so wish these conditions change. They shall change soon! I can never understand how people survive such adverse situations. I would have been dead for sure!
And I best loved
**If God wanted women to live this way, all female babies would be born covered, not naked**
I wish a life for such losers soon!
~I am proud to be a woman~
Some things just don't change....
Tell you what,though I did not read all the 96 comments that you have here ( that is quite a number you see ), but I have a feeling that religion has "almost" everything to do with the Afghan crisis that you have taken as a sample ( a proper,justified sample,if I may add ). There is a lot about religion.A few days back I was someone with the belief that " No religion teaches us to hate any other living being" and then I came across a blog which gave a link- which talked of Islamic texts ( Quraan ) to be authenticating Jihaad and terrorism.Even Oppression for women is something that is highly appreciated by Quran. I regret I do not have much knowledge but what Google provided me with,well..that was devastating.
Beating your wife secures you a place in heaven.
Killing those who do not follow Islam will be a service to Allah.
And similar stuff.Disturbing it is.
Its not always the people who propagate such ideas all the time.They are often mislead by such texts.Hinduism is also not short of such stupid propositions.
Someone said in your comments, Religion is a way to live.
Well, I do not think so.Its more of an explanation for all that some particular section of society wants to do and still not be called sinners.
Some of my friends say I'm a feminist but I really dont care. I'm one person who believes women go through a lot in this world. I think we men need to do more to put an end to some of the suffering that women go through especially in certain parts of the world. It is horrendous! Would come visiting often. Please continue the crusade.
Hey keshi,
long time no speak
I haven't been ignoring you just life is a bit hectic at the best of times.
It really makes you appreciate what we have here in Australia, i know it is not perfect, but things are a lot worse in other parts of the globe.
I always wonder if the photographer tried to help any of these people, or if they were just thinking about the shot?
Any way it is good to see you alive and well.
harsh realities and evil upon innocent can only leave one speechless and mute! there are no words to even sympathize such sufferings!!
the only solace is hope!!!
take care!
Arv not that they HAVE to go thru that...just that they are FORCED to.
Sadly.
Keshi.
ty Southy!
**..AK-47 instead of book..
Exactly how I felt when I saw that pic! Childhood is when the human psyche is just beginning to bloom. Imagine been given a gun to the hands at that stage of one's life...imagine the DAMAGE it causes to the psyche. Its so v sad!
**even if u hv no choice but to raise ur weapon make sure its not by the future of the society atleast coz the moment he holds the weapon his soul is dented forever.
Spot on! This child is part of teh future of the world. Never mislead something so precious as that!
Keshi.
**only way to deal with such ppl, just pump some iron in their skull thats all.There is no other language they understand.
hahaha Southy good one! I cracked up big time when I read that. LOL!
yes ur right...they dun u'stand any other language better than the language of VIOLENCE.
Keshi.
Irshad I wanted to ask one more thing from u. Cos I hv not read the Quran and u hv.
Does it instruct a woman to wear the Burqa?
Keshi.
ty Deepti!
I feel like getting that book now. Sounds like a great read!
**the very small things we take for granted like a walk down the street is restricted there..
Exactly! This post, at a glance, reminds us how FORTUNATE we r!
**Its not about religion, its just a mis interpretation for personal gains!!!
Spot on! Thats what it really is.
Keshi.
really Ankur? :) then u chose the perfect name for ya!
Keshi.
ty Ziah!
ur right...WAR is a never a SOLUTION.
**On the other hand, U.S is full of bored people with surpluses of electricity, water, food and what not. It enrages me!
thats right. ppl in the West r having it all and even more than they require. But can we be angry abt that? No. Cos who's responsibility is it to bring their own nation to a good/bad state? The govts and the people of it.
The problem with Afghanistan and most war-torn countries (even Sri Lanka) is the Govts r greedy n selfish. They dun care abt the People. And people allow that to happen by starting stupid Racist and Religious wars. And the Govts GAIN from em...people SUFFER...and the economy is ultimately RUINED.
In the West, and here in Aus, people r PEACEFUL. No one kills each other cos of Race/Religion etc. As a result, most ppl hv a good life.
**I really wish those international courts would be less of a joke.
I agree there. It's like those Int'l courts just sit there and do NOTHING.
Keshi.
ty Stygian!
**schools and univs cater to popular needs, not to the ones who are needy
whoever said that? LOL r ya talking bt Grammar schools only? cmon, even the remotest village in Sri Lanka has schools and do CATER for the needs of the NEEDY! Some Presidents/Prime Ministers of the world got their education from rural schools with no fancy systems!
**Ego
we all hv the Ego but it's quite unhealthy when we use that Ego just to WIN all the time.
Keshi.
And Stygian, whatever u say, Education is a MUST. Or else where d u think this world will be today?
Keshi.
Do you seriously expect anyone who doesn't drive a camel to disgaree with any of those thoughts, Keshi...
ty AmitL!
**on one side,we talk of the world moving more and more forward,and on the other,such incidents still occur
ur right. The world isnt progressing as a whole. There r parts of the HUMAN HEART that will never PROGRESS.
Keshi.
ty Aasyushi!
**Where we are living with a furnished house,a school/coll./job to look to,adoring parents and siblings...and blah..
there are so many round there...ISOLATED..MURDERED by their
That itself is an initiative Aaysuhi! U THOUGHT abt it and u FELT for them. Cos there r so many ppl who dont!
Keshi.
tnxx Usha!
** or feeling silly for thinking that I'm going thru some unfair times
yes..this makes u REALISE.
Keshi.
tnxx Urv!
**All coz of the mind set of a small section of the society
its really not a SMALL section...there r ppl ard the world that treat WOMEN like that - Indoors. Just that they dun get exposed!
Keshi.
ty Aneesh!
**people are trying to live in hell here so that after their death they can live in heaven in the lap of the God.
I really dun u'stand that concept. I mean why wud anyone wanna SUFFER in this life that has been given to us, in order to REACH something that we cant even see!
**There are really educated people among them also and we don't know what will cure their mental attitude, 'coz education cannot.
true. Education dont always bring SENSE.
Keshi.
ty Ash!
Keshi.
ty Vish that was a great dialogue with the Humans!
**stop it, ican stand it any more...my humans! i hate 'em
exactly how I feel when I see such atrocities!
Humans r the real Devils Vish. And among them, there r some Angels too...like u.
*HUGZ*
Keshi.
ty Krys!
**they unable to look beyond their mind.But many people are aware of the difference between religion and spirituality.
I agree. Alot of ppl who r blinded by Religion r the ppl who let their own MINDS control them and others. They dun use their BRAINS to decipher logic.
Keshi.
ty Jeevan!
**The fearless world for a child is only seeing there mothers face.
yes. If a child is unable to see his/her mother's FACE, when they want to, whats the point in LIVING.
Keshi.
hey Jayant WC n ty!
**are you into journalism or something?
Im into Journalism of LIFE, yes. :) and nah I dun get paid hehe.
Keshi.
ty Asha, yes this def makes us count our blessings!
**When are we going to help them?
We really CANT help them Asha. Where they live, most ppl r blinded by a so-called after-death Reward system that drives them to do this to others. Until that fragile mentality is broken into pieces and burnt into ashes, WE CANT HELP THEM. Sadly.
Keshi.
ty Hiren!
**the main reason can be attributed to the upbringing; values inculcated; lack of education (at times); incorrect expectations set etc. So to improve upon this; it has to be done at a very earlier level than the adults.
I agree. But I dun u'stand why some so-called educated, upper-class and intelligent ppl do the same thing to their women n children.
Its not that I hv a super heart of gold...I just cant sleep comfortably when I know some women like me, of my age etc r suffering in the hands of Manipulation far far away from me...and Im unable to do anything abt it. Its so v sad!
Keshi.
ty Sameera!
**But unless we actually do something,how would it end?
but can we really do anything at all? I dun think so. When it involves ppl's MINDSETS that hv been built n shaped thru their entire LIVES, nothing can be done Sameera. MINDSETS dun change easily.
The only way out for women n children at the hands of such mindsets is to get out of those countries. And never give in to these men's demands.
Keshi.
ty Stony that was neat!
**Mother, who nurtures the child and shapes his future, can sure nip The Unbreakable Fragility in the bud.
I so agree. Like I said to Sameera just above this comment, these women need to learn NOT to give in to such demands. And also, teach their kids the REAL religion...and that is LOVE and to be able to think for themselves. Not to follow a script that ruins lives!
And yes..humans will do anything to fulfil their desire. As long as Desire binds us, we just wont stop! Sadly.
Buddhists believe that the reason for Suffering is the DESIRE.
Keshi.
ty Helen, as always ur comment was full of Wisdom!
**because we try to control the physical, the here, the now, instead of concentrating on the inner, the quest, the next
Love the way u put it! Many ppl dun realise the ANSWER lies in themselves...not in OTHERS.
**It makes me want to comfort instead of seeking comfort.
lovely! Im glad it made u feel that way. These pics made me feel that way too...to be more loving, appreciative and compassionate for I have ALOT more than many do! Mebbe it's time I give some of it to others.
Keshi.
ty Gunj!
Keshi.
ty Mayur!
*Why
cos most ppl who do that to others r lost bastards.
Keshi.
ty Ashu :) Nice to see u here again.
**i dont know what the so called "mullas" get out of imposing such hard rules on people on name of a religion....
They say they get 7 virgins in heaven lol!
I agree. India has so many Faiths but ppl show great harmony and tolerance. (apart from few extremists).
Keshi.
ty KAP!
U made great sense there!
**no one says "praise me and kill others who dont", they all say one truth... "Know for yourself what is the best for you and give the best of yourself".
True. But someone here stated that some religious scripts instruct to hurt ppl in order to gain in Heaven. Is this true? Im shocked.
Keshi.
ty Anit that was a great example of love and team effort!
**Sometimes all it takes is understanding and help from the ppl with whom you are living and then slowly everything will fall into place
so true!
Why cant these bastards see that their women n children r suffering so much at the hands of their greedy 'religiousness'!
Keshi.
k Anjuli tnxx hun! will do.
Keshi.
ty Hemanth!
these men dunno know what PAIN is. Cos if they did, they wud never inflict it upon another in this manner.
Keshi.
ty Sanchit!
Keshi.
ty CN!
** wud b surprised to know tht ISLAM prescribes hijab...which means that one should cover d body n head, there is no mention of covering d face at all.also, d hijab is prescribed for both men n women
Does it? well tnxx for letting me know that!
I didnt know that the Quran stated that. No one here told me that before.
Who wrote the Quran? d u know?
Keshi.
ty Coco!
**let it begin at home.
I agree. These women need to teach something else to their sons n daughters..not what their fathers followed!
Keshi.
k CN, I will go to Gman's blog next :) no worries, I love friendly debates hehe.
**...if only people's hearts wouldn't turn black!!!
so true!
Keshi.
ty Ne HUGZ!
yes...my heart is now broken beyond repair...
:)
Keshi.
HUGZ Mia!
Keshi.
ty Sach!
yes I'd rather die than live this way!
Keshi.
Sol ur right...some things like fragile MINDSETS never change!
Cos they were built that way since childhood.
Keshi.
ty Mishar that was very enlightening!
I agree..altho Religion cannot be totally blamed for such actions, it's also to be blamed cos of the misleading RULES it sometimes suggests as SPIRITUAL.
** which talked of Islamic texts ( Quraan ) to be authenticating Jihaad and terrorism.Even Oppression for women is something that is highly appreciated by Quran.
really? WOW! I never read the Quran but it baffles me that something thats supposedly 'divine' instructs something like that! No wonder all that treatment to women. Its appalling!
**Beating your wife secures you a place in heaven.
r ya for real!!!!!!
**Killing those who do not follow Islam will be a service to Allah.
Shocking!
Somehow I kept thinking why there's MORE ill-treatment for Muslim women than in other cultures. Now I know!
Some ppl r so blinded by a set of rules that they really never LIVE this life, instead they EXIST on Earth thinking abt a life after death!
tnxx Mishra for that info!
Keshi.
ty Kay and WC :)
Keshi.
heyyy Aidan HUGS! :) So nice to see ya mate.
**I always wonder if the photographer tried to help any of these people, or if they were just thinking about the shot?
Those interpretations of each pic r MINE, not the photographer's. :)
Anyways, how can anyone really HELP these women? There has to be a need to be helped too. If these women keep giving into their men and religions, the horrors will continue to happen Aidan.
Keshi.
so true Deepz!
Keshi.
hey Fingers!
**Do you seriously expect anyone who doesn't drive a camel to disgaree with any of those thoughts, Keshi...
Actually there were few disagreements (if u noticed), and no they dun drive Camels. :)
Keshi.
I think if a woman is shy and for her own reasons try to wear clothes which covers most of her body then its her choice but anyone forcing to do so is not only like contolling but showing power on weak!
It is very sad and the moment I saw the post I said to myself this is still a cry as one need to come out for their own rights otherwise they will be treated like worst than there shoes or door mats.
The brainwashing is done so bad that sometimes they dont see anything...
I think we should voice out on this...a very thought provoking post my dear
Save the women of this earth
Cheers
When a topic seems to large...it is usually best to try and look away from the petals and deep into the core...
Violence, hatred, maltreatment....etc etc...find their root at an absence of love in people. When people don't care for the others feelings and well being u see such things happening.
In our lives we shall meet many of these people...and the only way to defeat them is to love them back...for the only weapon that works against hate is love...
Religion has arisen mainly out of logic and ponderance...when ponderance leaves religion...the religion just becomes a ritual...nothing more
ty Dawny!
**its her choice but anyone forcing to do so is not only like contolling but showing power on weak!
Spot on!
Its all abt Manipulation. Not faith!
Keshi.
Mystique hey tnxx!
I agree that Love is the only way. But ppl who thrive upon Violence dun u'stand Love..wut d u do then?
**...when ponderance leaves religion...the religion just becomes a ritual
well said!
Keshi.
Keshi girl...There's this scene in a hindi movie 'Taal' where the hero is having a debate with his uncle and the uncle is screaming and shouting...and picks up a glass and throws it on the ground.
There is silence for a second...then the hero quitely picks up one glass after the other and breaks seven and in a calm voice says "if by screaming or shouting or breaking glasses your point is more valid than mine then my point is more valid because i jst broke seven glasses"
Hate is like a viral...it spreads by instigating hateful reactions in ppl...it makes u believe that u hate because the other person deserves it...but in the guise it is killing the love inside of u...and hence...try and love those who instigate the worst of the reactions in u...murderers, rapists, etc etc...
it is difficult...but then whoever said love was going to be easy :)
I know Mystique..from hatred u cant resolve hatred.
But, some ppl never u'stand that. Its genetic for them LOL! wut d u do then? Im not saying to hate em, Im just asking for a solution.
Keshi.
Keshi...I'm AWED
I mean it.
This is one post where I can't make a 'comment' because I don't know where to start. Every line is so poignant and perceptive. Keshigirl... that was brilliant! Insightful...Ironic.
Painful and yet, sadly, a stark reality.
aww ty Maca HUGS! :)
Keshi.
and i jst told u...love them back...
don't expect people to change in day , year or a lifetime....jst ensure that u help spread love...and as the envelope of love spreads....hate will find itself suffocated...
Mystique I u'stand what ur saying and I think like u too. But wut ur saying wont be a practical solution when it comes to Extremists!
This torture has been happening for years btw.
Keshi.
@Stygian
**ankur bhai, aap bade gyaani ho!
i take this as a compliment whenever its said with lot of sarcasm, coz then i got on ur nerve!!! :D
**we are part of it, true. but saying that and embracing what comes ones way is not what i can do. so i ll run away.
haha, seriously, dood... how old r u???
Coz grown up knows they cant run away from anything!!! Thats not a dialog from some movie but the truth of life!!! FACE OFF!!!
**proplr who need to be educated are not educated. schools and univs cater to popular needs, not to the ones who are needy
oops, sorry... Popular Needs??
Do you think that u can do anything at one go... There is a process to everything, which will follow... the rate of education is increasing and u can compare the same with the population growth too!! So for all to be educated will take time... if u r talkin abt that in particular!!!
and u started with saying... and i quote "schools and univs teach...crap mostly."
How contradictory u find ur own argument???
**the only greater or perhaps greatest cause i know is myself and my ego (keshi that was for you :))
Exactly, and thats the reason u need to grow up... to think that u r NOONE but Just a part of this crowd.. the rewards are tat u r still alive as this is a peaceful society, but the day u will be punished, u will not even come to know and u will just ask.. Y ME!!!
:)
Also to tell u the fact, u sound educated to me, but wisdom has nothing to do with education!!! :)
Knowledge is nothing if its not directed towards the right cause...
Cheers!!!
education and employment...like mosquitoes...hate also breeds most easily where there is hunger and illiteracy...
Do read this book 'three cups of tea'
that should explain it to u better than i ever can
@Mystique
Agree to u... there is no other option then to love them back, to make them realize what love is... to make them feel that they are no other than us!!!
LOVE is the solution of all!!! :)
Cheers!!!
@Keshi
i know hatred has been there for years... but also to remember it was tried to be answered by Hatred...
I think this is the time when we shld reply to hatred simply by Love... i know easier said than done... but then we have to do it!! :)
Cheers!!!
hehe.. thanks again btw for the wisdom thingy!! :D
hey Ankur hows u today? :)
**ankur bhai, aap bade gyaani ho!
wut did that mean? did he say u PREACH alot? duh typical Stygian! He doesnt like when others Preach, but he Preaches alot when he wants to. LOL!
**Knowledge is nothing if its not directed towards the right cause...
very well-said Ankur!
It seems that Stygian blames Education for not being able to SENSE. Thats altogether a different skill.
Keshi.
**hate also breeds most easily where there is hunger and illiteracy
well-said Mystique!
Keshi.
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