Wednesday, December 19

It's In Your Deeds

A British schoolteacher has been arrested in Sudan accused of insulting Islam's Prophet, after she allowed her pupils to name a teddy bear 'Muhammad'... ...it is seen as an insult to Islam to attempt to make an image of the Prophet Muhammad... ...angry crowds have demanded the death penalty for a Sudanese newspaper editor over an article allegedly questioning the parentage of the Prophet Muhammad. Read here.


Question: Faith or Ignorance, for where is Forgiveness?


A 16-year-old Mississauga girl who was allegedly strangled by her father in a dispute over her refusal to wear the hijab has died... ...“She wanted to live her life the way she wanted to, not the way her parents wanted her to,”... ...She calls it a fallacy to think that wearing a piece of fabric makes a girl more spiritual, when what she does is more important than what she wears on her head. Read here.


Question: Faith or Manipulation, for where is Freedom?


A YOUNG Asian woman was murdered for bringing disgrace on her family, after they heard a love song had been dedicated to her on a radio station, cops said yesterday... ...Heshu Yones, 16, from Acton, West London, was stabbed 11 times by her dad before he slit her throat... ...her Kurdish Muslim father, jailed for life for murder in 2002, said he had to kill her because she formed a relationship with a Lebanese Christian. Read here.


Question: Faith or Discrimination, for where is Unity?


LONDON - A father who ordered his daughter brutally slain for falling in love with the wrong man - a man who didn’t come from their Iraqi village, in a so-called “honor killing” was found guilty of murder... ...Banaz Mahmod, 20, was strangled with a boot lace, stuffed into a suitcase and buried in a back garden. Read
here.

Question: Faith or Barbarism, for where is Love?



Is there a God who rewards you when you imprison another with your beliefs? Is there a God who sees differences between a Christian and a Muslim, or a Hindu and a Buddhist? Is there a God who tells you to kill His children just cos they want to live life the way they prefer? Is there a God who applauds you for taking away someone else's right to live? Is there a God who tells you that you are his great devotee if you hurt another? Is there a God who teaches you to dominate women and crush their freedom and dreams? Is there a God who worries about what you wear rather than what you do? Is there a God who blesses you when you strangle a child with your bare hands? Is there a God who doesn't recognise love? Is there a God who promotes hatred and violence? Is there a God who instructs you that killing is honorable? What's so moral about throttling another with your beliefs? What's so Honorable about Killing? To me it is the LOWEST act a human being could ever do to another! Tell me, is there such a God? Is this what your faith is? Does that God know about forgiveness, acceptance, love and humanity? Doesn't He sometimes cry, feel, want, need...love? What/who is your religion/faith/God? I follow the religion of 'Live and let live'. I pray, not through words but through my deeds...for the God I know manifests through my deeds.


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c e e d y said...

First of all - disturbing but true stories.....
I am in snc with you here - what I beleive is in power of good deeds -or do what you can do best.

This might ire many people - but for me this whole concept of God is a myth - created by few powerful people to rule the masses and make them beleive that there is someone to take care of their woes.
It handicaps the mind and spirit as we get into a habit of pushing our mistakes onto that "mythical being" rather than have the courage to face it. Its a sad state of affair all over the world - ignorance and lask of basic education leads to blind faith.....

ceedy

Rahul Rad said...

I guess all of this starts when religion ceases to be personal, an organised system which you are born into! I sometimes wonder if the preponderance of such news being associated with Islam says something about the religion itself or the state of those present day societies which practise islam...
Good post Keshi!!

George said...

Religion, whether it be for a Muslim, Catholic, Jew, Hindu, Buddhist or any other ... is about love ... where do these people receive the idea that religion is about the stupidities that killed these innocent people ... and it always seems to be women being murdered by fathers, brothers, uncles, etc. Don't any males get murdered for falling in love with the woman from another caste, village or religion or do they get a slap on the back encouraging him to sexually use or hurt her because she is not really good enough for any man of their sect or village?

KAYLEE said...

That is horrible.Sorry I havent been here much lately.BEEN busy but,I have good news :)

HOW ARE YOU?

Sweetstickychewy said...

Dear Keshi. Its great to see a new post.

It’s a great post. I love it.

I feel that people make up God to be what He is not at times. And I don’t think anyone has the right to take someone else’s life just because they stepped beyond the line or against the line. And I also don’t think God who is supposedly known as all powerful need his creation to take punishing others into their own hands when he could jolly well strike them with lightning in just a finger click if he wants

Its hard to say how I feel about this post Keshi. But I am so glad you posted it. Cause there was a point in my life when I was raising some question within myself about the way people do things and who God really is. And yeah, I do feel that many a times they over do things or set criterias that suffocates or place a label ‘condemned’ just cause it collides with their idea of how things should be done.

I am not saying that it means that everyone can act incorrigibly. I just feel that no one has the right to judge a person to the point of murder when I am sure their butts are still stained with their imperfections

*hugs*

Andrew said...

Good work Keshi. Give these outrages plenty of coverage.

Crazy Me said...

Good night, this is a depressing post. People are so evil sometimes.

Compassion Unlimitted said...

Absolutely thought provoking..we all get trapped by issues which have no relevance to God and Godliness,for ultimately He or She is Pure Unadultrated LOVE !!
Well done,as usual
TC
CU

lee said...

God Is Love -so it's apparent to anyone with a functioning brain that these cases you've mentioned are a disgrace.And to think that these criminals believe that they would somehow be rewarded for these efforts - what they have done is pure evil.

AVIANA said...

hey there...

i believe in a higher power in the universe, whether it's god, allah, the stars, karma, buddha, whomever, whatever...

but at the end of the day belief is just that...a belief...it is not tangible.....

pain is tangible..you feel that..
love is tangible.. you feel that...

causing someone pain to make you feel happy and feel respected is not what religion is about...

it's not what life is about...

but this is also not about religion...it's about how men view women...and in particular in those cultures and religions...

how can you kill this "being" that has the power to bring life to this world

how can you kill this "being" that is from your own blood and only looks at you with love

how can you kill this "being" you say you respect with utmost appreciation

how can you kill this "being" that has your eyes

all for your "honor"...is that honor....

is your honor (something intangible) that much more sacred than the life (something tangible) you gave them..their life...

homo escapeons said...

http://www.stophonourkillings.com/index.php?name=News&catid=52

I was seething when I wrote about Aqsa Parvez. Basically I told her so-called father:
"I don’t give a F*CK about what your handlers or peers think about you maintaining appearances.

This is the modern world and if you cannot handle that, and refuse to allow your family members to join the 21st Century, then don’t come here.

Time and time again, the vapid, ridiculous, religio-cultural shackles of the past cling to the institutionalized psyche of many transplanted men and innocent wives and children pay the ultimate price.

Honour? You can take your f*cking honour and go live in the Dark Ages somewhere else.
Not Here."

The key to winning this 'War' is for the rest of the world to help liberate the Millions of females who are enslaved by these misogynists and their dogma.

Orikinla Osinachi. said...

Sweet Keshi,
Ignorance is the genesis of the violence of human crisis.

Only education can lead to the liberation of the slaves of false religion.

"Honor Killings" are satanic.

We must get rid of the devils perpetrating these evils, lest they will continue to kill more people.

There is only one God.
All the other gods and demigods are man made gods.

There are many false beliefs developed from our fears and insecurities.

We must investigate the circumstances of the religious and sectarian beliefs of our parents and ancestors and if found inhuman and evil, we should politely decline to accept them and if threatened, we should escape to wherever we can be free and in peace in other parts of the world.

The leaders of the sects perpetrating these evil and wicked "Honor Killings" must be summoned and warned to insist that their believers must stop these brutal killings.
They can do so every Jumat in their mosques and pass an edit to stop it.

God save the innocent from the wicked.

Cheers aand God bless.

Orikinla Osinachi. said...

i hope you received my long comment on the post?

Margie said...

Oh dear!
Such distrubing stories!
So very sad about the young women that were murdered at the hands of their fathers....brought me to tears!
I just do not understand how a person can commit evil deeds and think God will reward them!

I do believe many tears are shed by God at all the evil that goes on in this world!

This post distrubed me Keshi, but at the same time I thank you for it.

Good nite darlin'!
It's been a very long and tiring day, and I am going to bed early.
I have a wonderful book I am reading!

HUGGGGGGGGZ!

Margie.
P.S Are you all ready for Santa to visit you?
Hope he'll be very sweet and bring you all you want...just a week from today!

anits said...

hi keshi so sad... God teaches us good thing..Human created religion and ruining everything. Its all depends on how you think. Always see the positive side!
Anyway keshi good post..tcare
hugzzzzzzz

Blessed said...

"Is there a God who rewards you when you imprison another with your beliefs?"
You are rewarded in Heaven.

"Is there a God who sees differences between a Christian and a Muslim, or a Hindu and a Buddhist?"
I believe we all love the same God
and I do not have the wisdom of God to answer this.

"Is there a God who tells you to kill His children just cos they want to live life the way they prefer?"
God does not tell anyone to kill. He does not condone killing.

"Is there a God who applauds you for taking away someone else's right to live?"
There is a God who is crying over this act.

"Is there a God who tells you that you are his great devotee if you hurt another?"
No!!!

"Is there a God who teaches you to dominate women and crush their freedom and dreams?"
No!!!

"Is there a God who worries about what you wear rather than what you do?"
No!!! God loves you.

"Is there a God who blesses you when you strangle a child with your bare hands?"
No!!!

"Is there a God who doesn't recognise love?"
Emphatically no!!!!!!!!!!

"Is there a God who promotes hatred and violence?"
No!!!

"Is there a God who instructs you that killing is honorable?"
No!!!

"What's so moral about throttling another with your beliefs?"
There's nothing moral about throttling another with your beliefs!

"What's so Honorable about Killing?"
NOTHING!!!

"Tell me, is there such a God?"
There is no such God in which I believe!!!

"Is this what your faith is?"
NO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

"Does that God know about forgiveness, acceptance, love and humanity?"
God created forgiveness, acceptance, love and humanity!!

"Doesn't He sometimes cry, feel, want, need...love?"
MORE THAN WE CAN POSSIBLY KNOW!!!

"What/who is your religion/faith/God?"
I am Catholic and the God in which I believe is LOVE!!

"I follow the religion of 'Live and let live'."
I feel my religion believes in live and let live. But when others are living by killing, lying, raping, molesting, abusing, etc I can not simply say agree with that statement.

"I pray, not through words but through my deeds...for the God I know manifests through my deeds."
I pray through my words, my thoughts, and my deeds and when I do what is right, in that He leeds me, he guides me, then I know God is manifested through out me in everything I do.

KAYLEE said...

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BUMBLE!!! said...

I covered the teddy bear woman, who actually got released with time served in bad conditions, a few weeks ago.

People are messed up.

We truly need to bring back the Electra Woman and Dyna Girls of the world to stop this misogynistic bullshit once and for all.

dharmabum said...

theres so many good things to talk about keshi dear...why such depressing stuff?

vishesh said...

i can understand keshi.....what all this worth?

in kind health we can't preach,
all we do is to weep.
what we want is there to seek,
and our voice is not meek,
we can revive from our heart,
for all those lost are ours.
we can make a better day,for
the light remains the brightest.

Keshi said...

tnxx Ceedy!


**It handicaps the mind and spirit as we get into a habit of pushing our mistakes onto that "mythical being" rather than have the courage to face it.

Ur spot on here!


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Rahul I whole-heartedly agree with ya.

Also, I want to know WHY some ppl of certain 'religions' get UPSET when asked questions as such.



Keshi.

Keshi said...

George very well-said...it is abt LOVE indeedz!


I think those men see women as mere sex objects and nothing more...its appalling!


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Im very well Kaylz tnxx!

:)


Keshi.

Keshi said...

hey Amy tnxx for that sweetz!


** I do feel that many a times they over do things or set criterias that suffocates or place a label ‘condemned’ just cause it collides with their idea of how things should be done.

Spot on! Thats what I wanna convey too...how stupid is that ha!


::HUGS::

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Andrew and that was my main reason behind this post. As much as such stories grab my attention and make me very sad, it makes me wanna scream and let the world know HOW WRONG it is!

I wanna give it plenty of coverage alright!

:)


Keshi.

Coco said...

Keshi,
It's NOT God's fault...
it's humanity's!

We are given "free will"...
the freedom to choose from "right" and "wrong". Therefore, it's our actions which are at times atrocious!

God is love, compassionate, merciful, and forgiving...

God wants what is best for you-that which is "good".

Hugs and Blessings : )

ps
just in case...
have a WONDERFUL Christmas!!

Keshi said...

Crazy_Me yes its a depressing post but we can overlook these things or bury em and get on with our lives sweetz. We need to wake the world up. I think alot of ppl dun wanna question...dun wanna argue...r scared of some ppl...r worried that they'll be killed if they questin etc.

Yes...ppl r evil...so lets not let em continue being evil.

U hv a good nite sweetz!


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CU hey thats right...its only abt LOVE and nothing else!


tnxx!



Keshi.

Keshi said...

Disgrace is the word Lee..ur spot on!

And these acts r the opp of GOD.


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Lisa I loved ur take on this...tnxx hun!



**is your honor (something intangible) that much more sacred than the life (something tangible) you gave them..their life...

So well-said! HUGGGGGGGGZ!


Keshi.

Keshi said...

hey HE tnxx a ton for being here and for that link.


**This is the modern world and if you cannot handle that, and refuse to allow your family members to join the 21st Century, then don’t come here.

Absolutely! Practise ur shit in ur country...not in here!

I dunno why these ppl wanna migrate to countries like Canada/Aus/Britain and continue living like shits.


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ty Ori that was profound!


**There are many false beliefs developed from our fears and insecurities.


Excatly my toughts on this!


ppl do evil things cos of insecurity. Grow up evil ppl!



Keshi.

Paul said...

"I pray, not through words but through my deeds..." Sounds right to me. I'm 100% convinced that the "God of wrath" in whose name people on the far right of western religions practice hatred and revenge doesn't exist and is a sad commentary on how much the human spirit can shrink and the psyche distort.

The Bible and the Koran can only be read with our own hearts and minds. It seems to me that oftentimes those who do the most scripture quoting prefer the parts of scripture that strike me as least inspired. Maybe people who turn to scripture to support their every utterance should consider the possibility that scripture is God's own Rorschach test; maybe we're judged by what verses we choose to select and emphasize. Here are a few I like that you'd probably like too, but that you don't hear quoted nearly often enough, imo:

“My mother and my brothers are those who hear the word of God and do it.” Luke 8:21

“If any want to become my followers, let them deny themselves and take up their cross daily and follow me.” Luke 9:23

”You will know them by their fruits. Are grapes gathered from thorns, or figs from thistles? In the same way, every good tree bears good fruit, but the bad tree bears bad fruit. Mat 7:16-17

“We must work the works of him who sent us while it is day; night is coming when no one can work.” John 9:4-5

“From everyone to whom much has been given, much will be required; and from one to whom much has been entrusted, even more will be demanded.” Luke 12:48

“Show me your faith without works, and I by my works will show you my faith.” James 2:18

Keshi said...

Hey Margie MWAH!


**I do believe many tears are shed by God at all the evil that goes on in this world!


yes definitely...alot of idiots dun see that...instead they think they r God!

** Are you all ready for Santa to visit you?

OMG Im thrilled! :):) ur a darling Marg!


u hv a good nite sweetz MWAH!


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ur absolutely right Anits!


tnxx n HUGGGGGGGGGZ!



Keshi.

Keshi said...

aww ty Blessed! That was a beautiful comment. I'll never forget that.


**There is a God who is crying over this act.

I can feel that too...


**I feel my religion believes in live and let live. But when others are living by killing, lying, raping, molesting, abusing, etc I can not simply say agree with that statement

definitely! I agree with ya.


HUGGGGGGGZ luv n tnxx a ton for that truly healing comment!



Keshi.

Keshi said...

Yes Bumble she's realesed now...but d u know what her greatest fear was when she was in jail..being raped by the guards for insulting Islam.

I sometimes wonder why ppl go to countried like that for work!


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hey Dharma!


**theres so many good things to talk about keshi dear...why such depressing stuff?

:) Should we only talk abt GOOD things? Then what happens to all the BAD things that stay buried? What abt these victims' memory? What abt their lives that they lost? Shouldnt we talk abt them and spread the word so that something like this can be truly addressed in the open?

I think alot of ppl DONT wanna talk abt tragedies...or someone else's faith that really isnt faith. But these stories grabbed my attention...and since this whole world is facing religious crap these days, it's high time that we stop ignoring these issues and getting on with our lives Dharma.

We need to ask questions...spread the word...do something with Immigration laws...cos stone-age ppl can stay in their own countries..dun come here and practise rubbish!

And thats why I wrote this post...Im not blogging to write abt pretty stories...my blog consists of stories that capture my soul...and if I dun express abt what affects me, why wud I hv a blog? :)


Keshi.

Keshi said...

tnxx Vish!

**the light remains the brightest.

beautiful and true!


Keshi.

Keshi said...

true Coco, it isnt God, it's humans who create all these stupid rules!

HUGS and same to ya hun!


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hey Paul tnxx for being here!



**scripture is God's own Rorschach test; maybe we're judged by what verses we choose to select and emphasize

what a clever analyis! It very well may be a test. WOW!


Loved the Bible verses!


**“If any want to become my followers, let them deny themselves and take up their cross daily and follow me.” Luke 9:23


profound!


**“Show me your faith without works, and I by my works will show you my faith.” James 2:18

I got goosebumps as I read this one!


ty so much Paul and God bless!



Keshi.

VeenS said...

No it is not God, but it is people! When people don't really see the meaning of religion thats when such brutalities happen.
Reliegion is all about showing you the way to liv life with love and hope and sinceriety. People nowadays use religion as a mask for shielding their horrendous crimes.

I don't believe it is just in Islam, but i think almost every religion has people who do such brutalities in the name of religion!

I hope someday they understand that love is the first lesson taught by God and all religions!

Margie said...

Well, I finished my book, and I just wanted to share this quote with you dear Keshi, before I go to sleep.

"Remember that all through history the way of truth and love has always won. There have been tyrants and murderers and for a time they seem invincible but in the end, they always fail- think of it ALWAYS."

-Mahatma Gandhi.

I know how you would appreciate this quote as you understand life so very well and share all of your beautiful heart and soul here!

I love you for who you are Keshi darlin'!

MWAH!

Margie.
P.S And I'm so glad ur thrilled about Santa coming to visit you soon...me too!

Mal said...

It doesn't matter which country you are in, religion is reflected in the way you live. It is the thought in your mind and the spirit in your soul. It is manifested in your behaviours. Religion has been interpreted for men's (literally speaking) convenience and dominance. Ladies, please don't continue begging for mercy. It's time to fight for your rights.

Mal

Keshi said...

tnxx Veens ur absolutely right!


**I hope someday they understand that love is the first lesson taught by God and all religions!

Beautifully stated!



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hey Margie lovely to see u here again MWAH MWAH! :)


**There have been tyrants and murderers and for a time they seem invincible but in the end, they always fail- think of it ALWAYS."

Wut a beauty! So true. Bad ppl FAIL in the end, no matter what.


btw, I must tell u this...there's St.Nic coming ur way too...check ur mailbox HO HO HO ;-)


HUGGGGGGGGGGGZ! Good nite angel!



Keshi.

Keshi said...

Mal ty so much!


**It is the thought in your mind and the spirit in your soul.

Absolutely!



**Ladies, please don't continue begging for mercy. It's time to fight for your rights.


exactly wut I intend to tell ALL LADIES who may read this too. Dun suffer in silence...speak to someone and get out of it before it's too late for ya..like it was for these ladies, sadly.


Keshi.

ghee said...

gee...so pathetic...

faith should enlighten people,not blind them in their own wrong beliefs.

How can you murder a person or your own family by protecting your faith?Its so wrong...all so wrong...and a life sentence for just naming a teddy bear??OMG,what`s the matter with these people concerned???

God is so good that He forgives everyone who repents with all his/heart...if he could forgive,why we people can`t?

very nice post,Keshi :)

hugs!
ghee
http://akoni.info

Keshi said...

tnxx Ghee!

yes its a very bad example of so-called FAITH. If this is faith then what is evil?


I also think that these kind of things happen due to TERROR induced TRADITION in some cultures. Its just pathetic beyond words.

Forgiveness is understood only by someone who truly knows what compassion is.




Keshi.

Keshi said...

Spook said:


This is what happens when a muslim female seeks freedom in the 21st century. She's killed by a follower of 3rd century ideology. A father kills his daughter over a piece of freakin' fabric. I wonder if all the feminazis here and in Canada will speak out in protest of this...dead silence.
That girl is freer now than she was at any time in her life. At least she had the courage to try and cast off the chains of Islam. I for one will not forget her anytime soon. Absolute cowards, muslim men are afraid of, and are threatened by the girls. I have nothing but pure contempt for them all.

Lash said...

the question is what comes first.. relegion or god? or maybe what is more important?

Vest said...

Christians and Muslims have been at each others throats from the word 'Go', Although the increasing momentum towards faith oriented cruelty through sheer ignorance is perpetuated by the fat priests of the Muslim faith, who appear to be still within the medieval era.
Most Christian communities have left these cruel leanings two centuries ago.
Methods of cruelty and sheer horror can be attributed to the Chinese (in the past).
Visit 'HAW PAR VILLA'? in Singapore or Hong Kong for displays of ritual killing, these displays are blood curdling.

general_boy said...

Is there a god that condones "honor killings" carried out by vicious, cowardly women against innocent men?

Is there a god that turns a blind eye to acts of gross indecency carried out by women of the clergy?

Is there a god that requires men to mutillate their genitals to the point of sexual disfunction?

Is there a god that makes men subservient to women?

Is god a man?

Is god in men?

Or of men?

Ghost Particle said...

How one religion mutated into a seriously misunderstood teaching is baffling. Even when every other religion draw a line when it comes to someone who do not wish to practice, this one religion never lets go.

How we can achieve peace and infinite patience through Buddhism, the love of culture and art and the cosmos through Hinduism and the revelation of a peaceful and loving God through Christianity failed to mirror similar human and humanity sentiments in this 'one' religion is unanswerable. Probably you can see how all religions are connected because we humans are one, only our make-up differs...

And the first thing to teach a child is that God is compassionate, loving and divine. The last thing even it it is the last thing, NOT to teach someone is of God's wrath. there is no such thing, and it influences half baked maniacs in violent ways.

God is always love. Anbe Sivam.

Here is a moment for love and God.

Nora said...

I just shake my head at it all. Great post, Keshi.

Nora

Sam said...

Violence in the name of faith is absolutely contemptible and at times i never understand why??? i mean, haven't Muhammad, Jesus, Buddha, Mahavir taight the same stuff... the language, time might have been different but never the core teaching!! den why fight???
and den wot you've mentioned while it's always teh Muslim society which gets highlighted for such barabrc acts, if truth be told it is prevalent amongst member of a different belief too... Honour killing is just a way of life for ppl in some parts of the world...
If you've seen Hindi movies you'd know just how much this mentality is arnd in this country... a sad but true story!!

Mohan said...

When we drink, we get drunk. When we get drunk , we fall asleep. When we fall asleep, we commit no sin. When we commit no sin, we go to heaven. So, let's all get drunk and go to heaven!! Ohh Yea

Miladysa said...

An excellent and thought provoking post!

Vidya said...

Disturbing stories! I think that religion is personal in that I would want to be able to see "God" the way I want to and not the way the society wants me to.

It just stinks that people can be ruthless in the name of religion.

Vidya

Helen said...

I've followed some of these stories, and they're outrageous. I have no words for the autrocities committed or the way people prefer to harbor their own hate and ignorance. It's really just frightening sometimes. I have a friend like your 'Witness' friend who prefers to be right (in her mind) rather than just be a loving friend. Why is being 'right' better than being loving?

c e e d y said...

Hi
Keshi,

Since the topic is on God - I simply love the topic - and my views are not in sync with many....
here I had written two write up of dealing with GOD as a corporate head which I plan to continue as a story in the future - if you have time read them (they are a bit long but hopefully funny)

http://ceedyreflections.blogspot.com/2007/09/gods-inc-gi.html

http://ceedyreflections.blogspot.com/2007/11/gods-inc-gi-2.html

Asha said...

It's sad but true!
I heard that few Indo-British girls in Southall are throwing themselves on the railway track every year bcos their close knit Sikh/Punjabi families are forcing them to get married to uneducated relatives from Punjab, so they can settle in UK!
Ignorance, that's what I say! Don't know how many years will it take to adjust to the new World and civilized society!!

Swati said...

Great post Keshi.
I believe following one's religion shud b all abt live and let live, as u said

Alok said...

I believe in God Keshi and believe very strongly in it ... and I believe in religion as well ... and there is nothing in this world that can change that belief ...

Is my belief blind ... might be for everyone else but not for me .. He is there and I accept Him from all my heart ....

But my belief is mine (it is personal) and I dont impose it on others ...

I think that answers why I abhor the kind of incidents you narrated ... becoz belief in God is personal ... it has got nothing to do with what others believe ... God and religion in its entirety is beyond the so called insult that people throw at them ... if one person could influence religion it wld never have been evolved and wld have never been able sustained itself over the centuries ... if people realised and accepted this simple fact all kind of so called fundamentalism would stop ....

And as to the fact that whether our deeds is everything that matters, well God and deeds are two separate things for me ... We as human beings are superior to others becoz of our brain ... one of the key aspect is conscience ... how I use my conscience is my problem and my deeds are thus result of my thinking and God has got nothing to do with it ... lets not blame Him for our sub(un)conscious state ...

See u make me think so much :)

Alok

AmitL said...

Hi,Keshi-yes,even I read most of these stories,and was wondering whether God really meant for humans to interpret His teachings in this way,whichever religion you belong to?

In fact, I came across this one last week:
"An appeal court in Saudi Arabia has doubled the number of lashes and added a jail sentence as punishment for a woman who was gang-raped.

The victim was initially punished for violating laws on segregation of the sexes - she was in an unrelated man's car at the time of the attack."
(Read the full story here:http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/middle_east/7096814.stm)

On one side,I do agree that people should respect a country and a person's religious sentiments. On the other, are such acts justified in this day and age,I wonder?

Anjuli said...

Great post! so many instances like these happening around us makes us feel so helpless..its really sad...

Sameera said...

Finally the post you said you would do :)

Terrible examples all are and an excellent post.I always have lived by that adage "Live and let live" and it is very shocking to see how so many just wreck others' lives and end up in self-destruction of their soul as well.

Let's join hands in unison and do the right thing in our way.Hugsss

WP2007 said...

Hi Keshi

Just a quick Hi.

Will comment when I have time later.

Hugs

Bev

For All Women Foundation said...

Thank you for blogging about this subject.

Removing the "honor" killings issue from the religious sphere, doesn't it really just come down to having some respect for basic human rights?

Ellen R. Sheeley, Author
"Reclaiming Honor in Jordan"

WP2007 said...

Hi Keshi

In most of these events, the accused are extremists.

In the case of the teacher, she was ignorant of the consequences.

The newspaper editor was not stating, he was asking if it was right or wrong to use religious names.

In the Mississauga case, it was a clash of cultures and more so lifestyles. Wearing the hijab is rooted in religion, but it's also a part of the lifestyle. This is all I'm going to say about this case because there's a lot more to this story than the public knows.
Peel Regional Police are still investigating the case. The Father is accused. (but)

In the case of the Asian woman it was a cultural and lifestyle clash, much like the Mississauga case.

The London case was not religious nor cultural, it was murder. The issues surrounding this case are numerous.

If you believe in God, God is a god of love. The Devil is the god of hate. Just exactly who are these people worshipping?


Bev

Paul said...

Keshi, that one about faith and works really impacted me too - when I first read it, it was just... Wow - ! A jaw-dropper.

I'd be interested in your response to what I just posted - on a similar wavelength.

Rex Venom said...

Holy Fuck!
I mean, I know these kinds of thigns happen in our world, but I just can't get my mind around it.
Things like that can make one loose any faith in a higher power they might still have.
Poop.
Rock on.

Still searching said...

Great post! So true!

I didn't have the heart to read all the full stories, they're all so brutal and illogical!

Paul Champagne said...

The Muslim religion is stuck in the Dark Ages ... while the rest of the world evolved, they remained stagnant

Almost feel like I can't even call it a religion anymore ... more like a cult.

Menchie said...

This is sooo sad to read about. But too true. a lot of hypocrites around. makes you want to wish them all away to a remote island with no food or water.

Jay said...

I thought I had commented here last night. I guess not.


What really scares me most about these stories is it always results in people condemning certain religions while ignoring the problems or the same type of crap going on in their own religion.

Southpaw unplugged said...

May the souls of all those lovely girls rest in peace....as far as discrimination and tolerance is concerned i dont see any hope towards that...

Dawn....सेहर said...

OMG!!! I can't believe that am living in this era????
Oh dear I must appreciate your presentation ....really you should publish this in some global news paper where people can think what they are doing and what is all they are preaching!
I am stunned !!!
Hope people get some sense and try to live what is worth for!
My best wishes
Happy Holidays and hugs to you

WP2007 said...

Hi Keshi

If you remember the post where I including a small portion of the draft of a story we're working on, I want to add a small update I heard about. It appears as though a child (10years-old?) may have committed sucide because of the same reasons as the one mentioned in the story. The problem is no one knows if a child did commit suicide. No one is talking. There's no funeral nor death notice.
Our source is very reliable. The whole story is strange.

BTW, I'm back!!

Bev

Keshi said...

tnxx Lash!


**relegion or god? or maybe what is more important?

yes thats right..maybe even WHAT IS MORE HUMAN TO DO?


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ty Vesty! I shall email ya soon :)



**Muslim faith, who appear to be still within the medieval era.
Most Christian communities have left these cruel leanings two centuries ago

I agree...I know that most religions caused enough bloodshed in the past...but which one of em is still following that past? I think we all know the answer to that.



Keshi.

Keshi said...

Boy u really got me THINKING there! Wow, those qns were so profound!


**Is god a man?
Is god in men?
Or of men?

EXACTLY my qn too!


-----------------------------------

Ghosty I loved ur comment! TY!


**How one religion mutated into a seriously misunderstood teaching is baffling. Even when every other religion draw a line when it comes to someone who do not wish to practice, this one religion never lets go.


Exactly my thoughts on this...HOW and WHY?


**God's wrath

If any faith is based upon FEAR and INSECURITY, then it'll fail badly.



Keshi.

Keshi said...

Nora tnxx hun!



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hey Sam ty!


**teh Muslim society which gets highlighted for such barabrc acts, if truth be told it is prevalent amongst member of a different belief too...

It WAS prevalent in OTHER faiths. And Sam, hv u noticed whenever u ask a Muslim abt certain ridiculous practises in their faith (where women and children r manipulated), they get so offended and don't wanna talk abt it etc. WHY is that? Generally I dun see that reaction in other faiths..



Keshi.

Keshi said...

Hey Mohan :)


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ty Miladysa!



Keshi.

Keshi said...

Very true Vidya. Its terrible when certain beliefs are forced upon others...ppl should be allowed to make decisions on their own when it comes to FAITH.


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Helen tnxx hun!


**Why is being 'right' better than being loving?

Exactly my qn!!



Keshi.

Keshi said...

aww ty Ceedy...I shall definitely read those as soon as I get some time.


btw I too love to discuss abt that ol Guy ;-)


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Asha WB HUGGGGGGGGGGZ! I missed ya. I hope u had a good break.


**Sikh/Punjabi families are forcing them to get married to uneducated relatives from Punjab, so they can settle in UK!

YUKK I cant believe thats happening in the UK! Why do these ppl migrate to countries like the UK when their heads r still buried in the sand!



Keshi.

Keshi said...

ty Swati n thats so true.


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tnxx Alok!


**becoz belief in God is personal ... it has got nothing to do with what others believe ..

I agree.



** how I use my conscience is my problem and my deeds are thus result of my thinking and God has got nothing to do with it

I know..but when I said that the God I know manifests thru my Deeds, what I meant was my real FAITH lives in my DEEEDS...my dedication and love of God, lives in my DEEDS.



Keshi.

Keshi said...

hey Amit!

**An appeal court in Saudi Arabia has doubled the number of lashes and added a jail sentence as punishment for a woman who was gang-raped

yes I read abt that too. I was too disgusted by that kind of ignorance, I was basically punching that judge repeatedly in my head!


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yes Anjuli tnxx!




Keshi.

Keshi said...

ty so much Sameera HUGGGGGGGGZ!

while we r always ready to hold hands in unity, there r some ignorant dickheads still left in this world who dun see it like that...


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hey Bev WB! :)


I missed ya.



Keshi.

Keshi said...

Ellen WC n ty!


**doesn't it really just come down to having some respect for basic human rights?

Spot on! And it seems that some ppl dun u'stand what HUMAN RIGHTS mean!


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hey Bev!


**In most of these events, the accused are extremists.


yes darling...but tell me in which religion/faith do we have the MOST number of extremists? It should be pretty obvious to the world by now! **rolling eyes**


**If you believe in God, God is a god of love

spot on!


HUGGGGGGGGGGZ n tnxx!



Keshi.

Jeevan said...

These incidents are to reprehensible if not they will continue with the unreasoned belief. I want to tell it’s a stupid thing some people took against the British school teacher, and what happen to that Mississauga girl by her own father is very sin. Look at her she has a beautiful face; it makes sad seeing something like that messed in belief.

I have a belief that is to me and I can’t force it into any other people. This is happening when some want there belief to be hope by others too, if not the violent head lifts.

Keshi said...

Paul hey I'll be there soon. tnxx!


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Rex tnxx mate!

I still hvnt lost faith in God...its cowardly ppl who do this kinda thing in the name of GOD!



Keshi.

Keshi said...

SS Im still crying for these women...


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hey Paul yes I agree..stuck in the dark ages it is!




Keshi.

Keshi said...

Menchie I wish I had the power to do that!


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I agree Jay...but there wont be any smoke w.o. any fire, wud there be now? :)



Keshi.

Keshi said...

Southy I know...its like this world is gone totally STUPID. Good ppl live their own life...bad ppl just keep growing and no one does anything abt it...as long as their lives r safe! ppl r even afraid to ask QUESTIONS.


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ty Dawny HUGGGGGGGGZ!

yes..its very sad. And I blog abt it so atleast one girl out there who may be reading this mite speak up next time her dad/brother tries to rule her life, in the name of God!



Keshi.

Keshi said...

hi again Bev!


**The problem is no one knows if a child did commit suicide. No one is talking. There's no funeral nor death notice.

that sounds like Aqsa's death 2 weeks ago...and her funeral was also private, leaving all her friends totally disappointed!


Some ppl need to be hanged! Seriously! Im not a death penalty supporter but in scenarios like this I get VERY ANGRY.



Keshi.

WP2007 said...

Hi Keshi

In North America, circa 1920-30's, religions formed as a result of ones breaking away from other faiths. It's the same as the religion you're talking about. The name of the religion is used to cover all the factions of this religion. It's the factions that cause most of the problems encountered in the world.

The events you mentioned are isolated, in the fact that the crimes were committed one or two people.


Bev

krystyna said...

Hi Keshi!
These tragedies happened every day. It is soo sad, unbelievable that people make it in name of God. God is Love.
I don't like - religions. I believe in God. I noticed that atheists people are much better than religions.
Your post should be publish at the main newspapers and TV.

Margie said...

Only a few more days till Christmas Keshi....
I'm sooooo busy trying to get ready!

To my Friend Keshi

A quiet moment for reflection
is hard to find this time of year.
But, remembering friends like you
fills those times with special cheer!

Wishing you a cozy Christmas
warmed by wishes true and bright
and gifts of joy and laughter
wrapped in love, friendship and delight!


MWAH!
HUGGGGGGGZ!

Merry Christmas Darlin'
Margie.

La vida Loca said...

Bravo. Well said honn.
In the same vein I always wondered if "just" wearing a bindi or mangalasutra would make a gal more Indian or even homly for that matter.

Pri said...

i totally agree with u dear...in the first place, people should learn tht god or the higher force we all worship believes in equality and such acts are so very inhuman...
its horrible keshi...cant believe ppl can still be so shallowminded...
there was a movie called 'in the name of god' screened at the IFFI...very nicely potrayed how the jehadi fundamentalists try to fix ideas in the mindset of innocent ppl in the name of islam...it was a wonderful movie directed by a coupla pakistani guys and had a beautiful msg put across...
it speaks against the purdah system, bias against intercaste and interreligion marriages and many such issues...loved the movie...try to google it if possible...will send u the link if i can get it...
take care
well written post
hugsss :)

uttara said...

keshi...
Its very sad to know that people kill their blood for religion.. i don't think Geeta/ Bible and Kuran preach this so why they have to do it?? This is with all community and religion.

I don't have anything here n u have rightly said "live and Let live"

Btw i mailed u

HUGGGGZZZZZZZZ
tc hope all well .. n sorry to have visited after long time :)

Swati said...

Santa, hv u gone back to the north pole?

Keshi said...

Jeevan ur very right - never force ur beliefs on others. Its a sin.


tnxx!



Keshi.

Keshi said...

hey Bev tnxx!

**The events you mentioned are isolated, in the fact that the crimes were committed one or two people.

nope..we only HEAR abt one of 2 Bev. Look at ALL the women suffering in ME countries!



Keshi.

Keshi said...

ty Krys!

** I noticed that atheists people are much better than religions.

Well-said! Atleast Atheists dun commit crimes in the name of God!



Keshi.

Keshi said...

hey busy gal Margie MWAH!

I cant wait to see 'Margie' in my mailbox :)


HUGGGGGGGGGZ n ty for that very beautiful poem! U really make me smile every single day!


LOVE YA!
Keshi.

Keshi said...

hi LaVida MWAH!


**if "just" wearing a bindi or mangalasutra would make a gal more Indian or even homly for that matter.

Spot on! Very well-said.



Keshi.

Keshi said...

Inhuman indeedz Pri!

hey I wanna see that movie...I love watching and learning abt such stuff.



Keshi.

Keshi said...

MWAHHHHHHHHHHH Uttsy I missed u so much! WHERE HV U BEEN? :(


Hey wut u said is true...no script of God says to KILL.


Keshi.

Keshi said...

hehehe Swati I'll tell Santa to come ard again ;-) He's a bit busy I think..hehehe..

Keshi.

niki yokota said...

ohhhh i cant believe she killed her father?? :O
thought father killed her? ewww wat a strong girl!!
never heard those aweful news keshi-chan. thank u veeeery much and have a wonderful day!!

Beach Bum said...

Saw a nice lady from the Persian Gulf blog awhile back and she asked the question of where did the teaching of kindness and mercy go she got in mosque as a kid. I've wondered the same thing about Christianity. The stuff I'm hearing in church now is cold and sterile with little in the way of humanity.

Fighter Jet said...

So sad.
If only these rascal involved had some sense of God and humanity.

Its the EGO of man which plays the havoc..not the religion.

Jay said...

Hey Keshi,

It's about 7 pm on Christmas Eve here in Arkansas, USA which I think makes it 12 noon on Christmas Day there. I just thought I'd come by and wish you Merry Christmas and happy holidays and all that cool stuff you sweet, funny, smart, sexy babe you! ;-)

SamY said...

heyyyyyy NUTTY :). Tooooooooooooo many poshts to read, so I'll keep tab from this. *Gosh* you should rename you blog as 'Keshi Daily' :D.

Quite honestly I don't believe in god as an entity but only as a concept. Guess you know that. Godliness is there in us :) and yet we search for god outside.

Religion the way I see has become a way to make people live the way someone in power / in want for power wants to. Rather than it being just 'a way of life'. History says that too. Of course I have made a generalization here and there are exceptions.

Unfortunately thats how it works in this world :(. It faaaar from being atlantis ;).

Keshi said...

ty so much all of u!

BB, Jay, Niki, FJ, Jay and Samy HUGGGGGGGGGGZ!

Keshi.