Monday, November 14

Virgin Blue..s...

No I am not talking about Richard Branson or the Virgin Blue Airlines - just a little bit closer to flying high though ;-) How many of you believe that staying a virgin (girl/boy, though I know it supposedly matters more to a girl) up until marriage is important? Coming from a rather conservative family upbringing, I have always been taught to believe that sex before marriage is almost equivalent to death lol! My mum would sit and talk about how good girls should be and how important it is for us to be chaste until we get married some day. In Sri Lanka, the highest caste people carry on a ritual for checking the virginity, straight after the wedding. I know this sounds ridiculous but it still happens in some families. What about the guy's virginity then - I think that is seriously lop-sided and sexist - but that's altogether a different topic. Anyways now that I live in Aus, I see girls younger than me doing it all, way before marriage and these days it's no big deal worldwide. While this depends alot on one's culture and values, there must be that sensible truth somewhere out there...whether virginity really matters or not.

I believe there is a Creator for all human beings. So if He created us with desires as in-built functionalities (my techie side diving in there :), then how does a society-induced union such as marriage have such a hold on it? Are some cultures forcing young people to suppress their desires and basic needs just to protect their cultural values? On the other hand, would it be animalistic to not care about virtues such as virginity and give into one's desires? Does one desire-driven physical activity destroy one's virtue or is it all in who you really are as a person? If you trust and love your partner, is it moral to make love to that person, even if you two are not married? Tell me about your culture...how it regulates virginity...and what you think about
it.

160 Cranium Signets:

saby said...

Yippppppeeeeeeeeee
me first

saby said...

the early creep gets the virgin

saby said...

i bet my ass
none of the guys who flock to be first here are virgins





not even Arz00n and Fira

saby said...

Jesus said



if u so much as look upon a wooman wid adulterous tots

u have already committed adultery

saby said...

yup

it matters more to a girl and her marriage prospects in india


coz it can be prooved

saby said...

i tink indian culture SUXS today

saby said...

the human body is ready for sex at age 16


repression of the sexual urge keads to deviant behaviuor

e.g. the catlik priests scandal
the pope shelled out millions for an out of court settlement

saby said...

i said it all





will screw all toms deeks and hairies who challenge me

saby said...

heyyy richard cranium
me tinks u in dis race too


but u need sex counselling
visit SEX COUNSELLOR
1 of my many bloggs

saby said...

are all the virgins still sleeping ?









wid their mommys

saby said...

the biological urge (nature induced) to procreate the species starts at age 16


monogamy is anti-nature

saby said...

FUCK !


am i the anti-christ????

saby said...

nutting more.


he jumps rope
does push ups
keeping himself fiting fit

Drywall Mom said...

I grew up in a very religious family and I got some good morals out of it, but alot of them took it too far and their children went wild b/c of it. I do beleive that you should wait until you are engaged to be with that person and that they respect that b/c if you have children with someone you don't stay with, you are not only hurting yourself but that child as well and that to me is enough to wait.

Lindsey said...

Oh lord...I think most of our parents would have preferred that we wait until marriage. I however am of the belief that once you are an 'adult' and you find someone you love...it's ok. I don't want to get married to someone I'm not sexually compatible with. I've got to test out the goods first. :0)

saby said...

i agree wid one
disagree wid another


mom
we cannot impose our ways on the next gen


move out of the way
the times they are a-changing

-Bob Dylan

Art said...

No idea if there is a check done these days in India...
But well its totally upto the girl n the guy... after all they are mature induviduals and they must be aware of what they are doing!!!

Me said...

I saw ur comment on my blog Keshi.
Was that you ???

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sittingnut said...

it's up to each individual to decide imo. nobody else should have any say in it.

i am from sri lanka and yes, those silly rituals(imo) still take place in some families. my mother however always ridiculed them.

sittingnut said...

*a society-induced union
? are you sure it is only society induced?

*virtues such as virginity
'virtue' is a relative term we have to create our own values only honesty to one's own self matter in the end.

Casablanca said...

Well I think pre-marital sex doesnt have much to do with virtues now... only to do with HIV.

uttara said...

helooooooooooooooooooooooooooo

good mg babes :))
how have u been???

hope u doing gr88

missed u loadss during the weekend :((

hugzzzzzz

uttara

saby said...

hehehehehehe, AVIK
ur one funny guy








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Keshi said...

Saby is THE FIRST yeyyy! And what an ideal post u chose to become first in lol!

**u have already committed adultery

oh c'mon who said that? eyes r there to look at beautiful things...touching is already a different thing :)







Hey Drywall!

**you are not only hurting yourself but that child as well and that to me is enough to wait.

True I totally agree with ya there...I have 2 friends who got into a big mess by getting preggi b4 marriage..now the kids r in a mess too cos the fathers didnt marry the mums. Better wait than making more ppl miserable.







Hola Linny ;-)
Yes I agree with u too...I mean how would u know if a man is sexually compatible with u or not if u dun be with him b4 marriage?

**I've got to test out the goods first. :0)

LOL u must indeed!

But Im just wondering, by getting to know a guy, moving ard with him, being intimate but not going all way, are we not able to predict if he's sexually compatible or not? Just a thought...







Hello Art :)

**after all they are mature induviduals and they must be aware of what they are doing

thats right...if both r consenting adults, then it's totally up to them to bear the consequences.






Avik :) thought u would know by now...





Arun thanks! I will do it sometime...







Hey Sittingnut!

**it's up to each individual to decide imo. nobody else should have any say in it.

very true..how can anyone else decide for u on something like this?

**are you sure it is only society induced?

marriage is..isnt it..I mean God didnt stamp a must-marry trait in us did He?

**'virtue' is a relative term we have to create our own values only honesty to one's own self matter in the end.

very well-said! Thanks mate :)







Hey Casa!

**I think pre-marital sex doesnt have much to do with virtues now... only to do with HIV.


LOL I think u got a great point there...watch out guys!






Uttara aww I missed u too - so very much! Check ur mail :) Huggggggggz so glad to see u girl...



Keshi.

Vivhyd said...

hmm.. Well virginity isnt much in relevance now in this world except for a very few of us who are still bound by traditions and hence are conservative.. While the natural inclination which is the purpose why we are all here which in theory is to procreate, our brains in a few cases rests that until we get married or are very sure that the person whom we are dating rite now is the one.. If that wernt the case it would be a mess out there and now with HIV being such a big scare, not only virginity but also haphazard sex should be something we must be scared of.

As far as virginity issue as such is concerned theres no sex discrimination in that matter. wht goes for one grp is same for other.. nice one keshi

~*~ kiran ~*~ said...

hi keshi ...

im fine now dear ..thanku darling ...its just 1 of those blue days when i start missing my friends sooo much !!!

well its a person's choice ...if she / he thinks they can go physical with the same person whom they can shre their rest of the lives iwth ..then they can surely go ahead ...sex before marriage doesnt mean end of life... its the acceptance of love n bonding taht the 2 people share with each other...its the show of feelings.....n here im talking abt people who are in love n who have decided to get married evetually....but ya if u are asking abt the 1night stnad..then it definitely shudnt be done .......
i blv sex is a show of ur truest ...most frank ...deepest...form of ur feelings for the person whom u love....well its 1 of the most beautiful emotions in a human being ...ok at the end of the day every human wants to be loved ...so theres no other thing that can satisfy a human being more than this ....although there are so many other forms of recreation available....but ya the emotional bonding can happen in this way only with ur partner...
so i think if 2 people are in love n want 2 spend the rest of their lives 2 gthr..its ok 2 go physical...but before that the sense of responsibility in both of them shud be there...n both shud be ready for it !!!

~*~ kiran ~*~ said...

n there's no such norm followed in "INDIA" as some people have written here....this happens all across the globe...

saby said...

i wanna be in AMERIKAA




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saby said...

its tuff getting laid in India
i chose to pay for sexual favours
we didnt have AIDS in my time


only STD
easily prevented and cured by pennicilin shots

Keshi said...

Hey Viv :)

**If that wernt the case it would be a mess out there and now with HIV being such a big scare,

so true...like Casa stated thats what one must of fear of more than breaking of virtues...







Kiran heyy!
So glad to see ya here! Hey dun feel so low mate...u will find new friends always and also u can keep in touch with the old ones...cant u?
And on the post, what beautiful sentiments expressed by u! Exactly what I thought of too. If 2 ppl r so much in love and value and respect each other, and r responsbile for their deeds, then it's ok to do what they want..to express their love for each other on a deeper level. Even tho u and I say this, dont our cultures prevent us from doing it, even if we love someone so deeply and want to be with them?



Keshi.

icyblue said...

hmmm.. interesting topic...

My point of view.. being Indian and from a south-Indian family, even kissing or holding hands or hugging is considered a SIN... and abt virginity... U r labelled 'poor character' or 'cheap' if u've lost it !!

Infact parents are so strict that the question itself doesnt arise...

Now if u're in a different country, then definetely it's a different story all to-gether :)

There are advantages and disadvantages... but my true opinion, once u've lost it, u should lose it with the person u love the most, and intend to share ur entire life with!!

Keshi said...

Hey Icy WC :)


**being Indian and from a south-Indian family, even kissing or holding hands or hugging is considered a SIN...

I agree...coming from a Sri Lankan family my mum would faint if she saw me kissing a guy..lol!



**and abt virginity... U r labelled 'poor character' or 'cheap' if u've lost it !!

yep! One of the Indian friends I have ha a baby b4 marriage...here in Aus...I dun judge her based on that...but my mum, even tho she likes this girl, she tells me what disgrace she's done to her family...I dun think it's fair to judge a person based on that..Indian or not...



**Now if u're in a different country, then definetely it's a different story all to-gether :)


LOL trust me Icy it doesnt make a difference in my family..hahaha!



** but my true opinion, once u've lost it, u should lose it with the person u love the most, and intend to share ur entire life with!!

Cannot say it any better - Thanks!



Keshi.

tulipspeaks said...

recently a south indian actress provoked anger of the tamils by saying that its okie for girls to lose their virginity b4 marriage..some NGOs and members of the public become so angry with her till some decided to physically attack her and some prosecuted her in the court..

see how ridicilous people can be..no, i'm not talking abt the actress..i'm talking abt the public :)

i always believe that sex is an act of love..tradition should not be a factor to hold one from losing his/her virginity to his/her loved ones..

but, above all..sex should not be the factor 'testing' ones feelings for another..

a sensitive topic that is beautifully written, keshi..

muuuaxxx and hugsss

=am000nie=

PuNeEt said...

oollaaaa... seems to be cool topic...
Will come back...

Monday morning here ;-)

Virginity Lane...Exit When Married
Lollzzzz

I feel it should be
Virginity Lane...Exit When in Teens

Take care

Cheers

Keshi said...

Amu who is that actress? The guys who tried to beat her must be Richard's cousins lol!

**tradition should not be a factor to hold one from losing his/her virginity to his/her loved ones..

so very true! but would u really do that? I mean if u find a guy who truly loves u and respects u etc etc?? there I put Amu on teh spot..lol!


**but, above all..sex should not be the factor 'testing' ones feelings for another..

omg look how much wisdom mah Amu baby has got!


Hugggggggggggggggz!
Keshi.

Keshi said...

ooo lala look who's here - Mr.Puneet - the kinda guy that makes me forget my culture lol! Im just kidding :)



**Virginity Lane...Exit When in Teens


OMG LOL u serious? so I know u did it when u were in teens..lollllllz!

Keshi.

Autumn Storm said...

Hi Keshi.
Another interesting topic.
In my case, I have two very different cultural backgrounds, but it didn't cause any problems or confusion.

Denmark's law states age 15, earlier than most other places. Subject of sex is very free and easy here and what this does is it allows the individual to decide, and this generally results in youngsters being very responsible, emotionally and sexually.

Hope alls well with you. Take care!

saby said...

NRI's want to be holier than the locals, like Keshi's mom
and they live in ghettos





i say
when in Rome do as the romans do


i am fortunate to be a born in Goa
where drinking is no taboo

after mom's milk
we are weaned onto Feni

Keshi said...

wow look who's here...mah Autumn girl...hot hott :)



**In my case, I have two very different cultural backgrounds, but it didn't cause any problems or confusion.

wow I didnt know that u had 2 cultures behind ya...


**Denmark's law states age 15, earlier than most other places.

hmmm now why wasnt I born a Danish? ;-)


**and this generally results in youngsters being very responsible, emotionally and sexually

I think thats really great. All cultures need to realise that w.o. looking at sex like it's a demon. It's really a basic need and indeed teaches one to be emotionally and sexually responsible for his/her actions, that lacks in many ppl from our culture...thanks Autumn!


Keshi.

saby said...

i wanna be in Denmark



.

~*. D E E P A .* ~ said...

HI ...

i believe in virginity for myself .... we can never decide whatz good for some1 else , can we ???

as far as i am concerned , if i lose my virginity brfore marriage , i'll spend the rest of my life regreting it even if i marry the same guy ... so, i am damn sure i wont get into that.
but as far as the principle of virginity is concerned , i'd prefer not commenting on it as all my views will be based on my thoughts.

there r girls who do have sex b/f marriage here too , but if they wont have any regrets, who r we to say anything ?

but somehow , i feel , they'll surely regret it at some pt of time

~*. D E E P A .* ~ said...

i know this girl who used to go out with a guy .... they had sex b/f marriage ... neway , they r married now ... but everytime they have a fight , he accuses her saying " U slept w/ me before marriage ... U could have slept with so many other people too "

c thatz how many guys view it .... if their girl is ready to sleep w/ them b/f marriage , she can w/ others too ....

Keshi said...

Hey Saby whats r NRIs?






Hellooo Deepa :)

I totally agree with u...who r we to decide for someone else...as this is a very personal and sensitive issue. But we dun need to DECIDE for anyone..it's ok to express our opinions isnt it...I respect ur opinion cos thats how I have been taught to believe so too...however marrying the same guy wouldnt make me sad cos if I had to lose it to the guy I loved and married later, then there r no regrets, is there...if I marry someone else, that would make me quite uncomfy and sad...

**but somehow , i feel , they'll surely regret it at some pt of time

those hwo go for one-night stands r a huge regret waiting to happen...but those who sincerely loved a person and made love with em, were merely expressing their love...that cant be a regret even if it doesnt work out in the end, can it? u r right...best to stay out of it than walk in to a potential regret anyways...thanks Deepa :)


Keshi.

Keshi said...

Deepa hey...

**but everytime they have a fight , he accuses her saying " U slept w/ me before marriage ... U could have slept with so many other people too "


yes my mum always says that...she says that if u sleep with a guy b4 marriage, he will tell u abt it for the rest of ur life...but doesnt that depend on each guy too? Besides he slept with her too...she can turn ard and say the same to him...why dun she??


Keshi.

tulipspeaks said...

Amu who is that actress?
kushboo and recently suhashini also had join kushboo defending her words...

I mean if u find a guy who truly loves u and respects u etc etc?? there I put Amu on teh spot..lol!

lolz..well..i haven't found one yet..and when i do..i'll let you know :P

look how much wisdom mah Amu baby has got!
wink wink..

muuuaxxxx and hugsss

=am000nie=

PuNeEt said...

hiiiiiiiii

the kinda guy that makes me forget my culture lol! Im just kidding :)
ooh My My...
I'am flattered ;-)

Keshi...
Just loosing virginity before marriage doesnt means one doesnt have cultural values...

Culture is only accepted practices followed blindly...
Values are important

I dont think staying a virgin up until marriage is important...

the highest caste people carry on a ritual for checking the virginity, straight after the wedding
This is dual standards...
and endorses my view about culture n rituals...

Another Good Post...
I'm so happy to hear your view...

Thanks babe
Cheers

PuNeEt said...

@ D e e p a

i have a diff view...
the case u said...
its not abt sleeping b4 marriage
its more abt trust there...

that guy was not worth the trust the girl had on him...

its just a reason to point fingers...

NO offence

Take care

Dhush said...

hi all...im new here...have bin wantin 2 write sumthg for a long time..but couldnt...but with this topic been talked abt...i thought i would say sumthgs 2...im 26...bin virgin till i get married is a big deal for me ....i have bin in few relationship...but i never let ne guy use me in this way...i for 1 thought ,i have kissed one b4,hugged 1 b4,luved b4,only thing i could give me hub for the 1st time was a one 2 one dance and my whole self...i was determine that i would only do that after i get married ...till i met my bf...i was only broken off 1 long term relationship...which lasted for 8yrs....this stranger knew a friend of mine, and she had given him my num..we started talkin...at 1st...it was very easy 2 talk 2 him ...and tell him everything abt me ....may b coz i didnt know him and so didnt he ...i didnt even know how he looked ...for a mnth we talked every day ....sumtimes for even 5hrs/day....after a mnth and half ...he said he luved me ....and couldnt luv him ....coz when i talked with him tht thought never crossed my mind....so i said i dont luv him ...that night he didnt ring me ...i couldnt sleep...only then i knew i did like talkin 2 him and his attention...so the next day he rang me again and said ....he couldnt stay without talkin 2 me 2 ...he had 2 talk 2 me everyday...even if i dont luv him ...it didnt matter 2 him he wanna 2 talk 2 me thats fine with him...to b conti...

Keshi said...

Amu heyy...

**kushboo and recently suhashini also had join kushboo defending her words.

aww I like Kushboo and Suhasini...2 dignified ladies...hats off to them for fighting against Stupidity!


**lolz..well..i haven't found one yet..and when i do..i'll let you know :P


OMG what a shrewd answer LOL! Ok u betta tell me then ;-)


Hugggzy!
Keshi.

~*. D E E P A .* ~ said...

Hey Keshi ....

I keep asking her why she doesnt ask him that , n she says that i'll never understand .... :((

n therez one more thing : i feel awful when she tells me these things .... i mean itz like showcasing ur entire personal life .... i keep thinking what her kids ( when she has them ) are gonna feel when they hear all this from some1 else ...

and u know , smthg i realised recently .... there r girls who boast abt their " Experience " ... and , i always thought it was the guys who did that.

~*. D E E P A .* ~ said...

my regret if i married the same guy would be later on .. when kids appear ...

i would have no right then , to tall them not to indulge in pre marital sex , would i ?

neither would i have any right to advise my sis ....

plus , i would always feel that i let my parents down

Keshi said...

Hey Puneet :)

**Just loosing virginity before marriage doesnt means one doesnt have cultural values...

I agree..I didnt say that did I? :) U can lose it to a person u love...truly love...not lust...



**its more abt trust there...
that guy was not worth the trust the girl had on him...
its just a reason to point fingers...


so true! Im sooo proud of u Puneet - tho u r an Indian man, u have a big heart and a great head above ur shoulders...well-said!


Keshi.

saby said...

SHIT !

Deepa
virginity is no treasure


fact is if u live in the US of A
and yr cherry is not yet taken

it means ur les or worse

Keshi said...

Hey Dhush WC to my blog muahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh! Luv ya gal!

Everyone WC my dalring Dhush...she's a sweety pie...:) Someone very close to my heart...


Hey I know that story...d u really wanna say it all here?


Keshi.

saby said...

NRI = Non- Resident Indian

the whole damn IT crowd
esp TANVI







is she a virgin?

~*. D E E P A .* ~ said...

Hey Puneet ....

You might be differnt from that guy .... Then , itz fine ...

but trust and love and all that is smthg to be cultivated over a long time , right ? not w/in a few months/ years time ....

And , we hear parents saying " You have broken my trust " many a time , right ? Well, if u can break ur parents trust , u can break anybody's too ...

right ???

Keshi said...

Hey Deepa ok I kinda u'stand ur friend's situation...but that's cos Ithink that guy really didnt love and trust her...sorry to say but he's a jerk to bring up the past in arguments that happen today...besides he's accusing her of an act they both supposedly did out of their love for each other..???


**i would have no right then , to tall them not to indulge in pre marital sex , would i ?

If and when I have kids, I would never advise them against it...even if I have been brought up to stay virgin until marriage...



**plus , i would always feel that i let my parents down

thats cos of the beliefs we have been brought up with...I guess everyone's families and beliefs r different...I respect ur family's belief Deepa...

Thanks girl!
Keshi.

~*. D E E P A .* ~ said...

Saby ...

Virginity is NOT a treasure for THOSE who CANT treasure or cherish it ....

So , waht u say means nothing

PuNeEt said...

hi Keshu baby...

so true! Im sooo proud of u Puneet - tho u r an Indian man, u have a big heart and a great head above ur shoulders...well-said!

oohoo.....
U made my week...
What a way to start the week...
Huggzzz keshu pie...

but but but
tho u r an Indian man
what do u mean by this...
They are not that bad...

I dun wanna start the same debate we had on ur post Indian Men...
hehehehe

I guess the very few good Indian men blog ;-)

Bt as u said... the trend is changing...and its not for good...
Freedom without boundaries is dangerous... and I keep saying this...
may be we take our freedom for granted :-)

take care
Cheers

~*. D E E P A .* ~ said...

Saby ...

U aren't an Indian ??
ur comments speak a lot about ur MOM too .. u know ??

~*. D E E P A .* ~ said...

thanx Keshi ....

u r damn sweet ....

Keshi said...

Saby can u stop abusing ppl...everyone's values r different and please respect them for that...as long a sthey dun bother u, thanks!





Puneet hehe I dun mean to say that Indian men r bad..lol..what I mean is Indian and SRi Lankan men r so fixed on this virginity thing much more than their brothers in the West, arnt they? Thats all :) And Im 100% sure that no White man will turn ard and call his wife a sl#t for sleeping with him b4 marriage, like Deepa's friend's husband called his wife...thats what I meant...


Keshi.

PuNeEt said...

@ Deepa...

ye I agree with u

if u can break ur parents trust , u can break anybody's too ...
na re its not that way...
I feel most of the time its the difference of a perception...
which is majorly due to gen gap

they still trust us and so we do...
this doesnt happen with other relationships...

I'm just giving a generic view

PuNeEt said...

agree with u Keshu..
Huggzzzzzzzz

take care

saby said...

WAHHHH....WAHHHHHH ...
Deepa is saying my mom aint a virgin



Keshi

u must yr moderator on Deepa

Keshi said...

lol did u really really agree with Puneet or r u too busy to respond in detail :) aww huggggggggz!




Amu I was thinking...rem the South Indian actress Monal...she committed suicide cos supposedly she was pregnant to this guy who didnt wanna marry her...so u see how far some cultural beliefs go? I mean she didnt have to die just cos of the shame that the society forced upon her??

Keshi.

saby said...

i better call on Julia to fite wid Deepa

i dont attack woomen
my mom said so

julia said...

did any one call me??

julia said...

i wudnt commit suicide or Sati for a guy

sat janam tak is bull shit

i hate mangal sutras and other signs of ownership

PuNeEt said...

arey sweeti trust me...
realy agree...

its just that u generalize things a lot...

i cant say anything on that coz our opinions are based on stories we hear n things happnd wit us
so its ok...

am sure all Indian n SL men are not like that...
its just that bad things get highlighted fast...

happy with details... ;-)
lollzzz
hugzzzzz

Keshi said...

lol ok Puneet grrrrrrrrrr! Yea I know...bad things get fast on the news...totally agree there :)


Hugggggggggggz!
Keshi.

PuNeEt said...

wat was that grrrrr for dear
chal me getting back to work

huggzzzzzz n have fun

~*. D E E P A .* ~ said...

Hey Keshi ...

This is becoming quite a discussion , aint it ?

And what abt the plans to give the flowers ... ???

~*. D E E P A .* ~ said...

Puneet ...

Well if u can keep her trust ... good :))))

right-o abt parents ...

n we r a pretty confused generation ... arent we ???

Keshi said...

Julia u can stick to the topic or just leave..cos u r abusing ppl here and u knwo I dun like it.






Puneet the grrrr was for saying that Im generalising lol! ok see u later :)





Deepa it sure is LOL! Im meeting him only at 6pm...I will tell u tomorrow :)

Keshi.

julia said...

quite a discussion is rite

77 comments in 3 hours
a case for Guiness records

julia said...

gtg now
i see Johnny coming


i hate day guy in undies

Johnny B. Good said...

Hi guys !
wats all the commotion about?




Heyyyy

why did Julia and Kesh leave??

lost in translation said...

its all just to preserve impressions;

not important,but still there;lurking in the vicinity.....

musings (m000nie) said...

'virginity'

in todays world this word has lost its meaning...

the way n environment we have been brought up in is rather different than wat it is today...

pre marital sex was a strict no no then... but today india is opening up... people dont really bother about virginity ny more.. especially in the metros... n to b truthful i dont think theres nything wrong in pre marital sex... the only thing u should bother about is aids n unprotected sex...

but again theres a catch here... if u really love n care for the person its ok i guess... but when its just for fun or pleasure or a one night stand i dont think its right...

one other aspect id like to focus on is kids going for sex... specially when they r just 15-16 years old.. even if they 'think' its love id never approve of that...

if ur mature (24 yrs onwards) then its nother thing... u know wat ur doing... u know where ur going... u know it could b 'love' n not a 'crush'... so then its ur life do what u want...

i guess we in india should move on n forget about virginity being the epitome of virtue...

thats utter crap according to me...

icyblue said...

lol .. I thought this scenario was only in India!! Definetely news to me :)

Rita said...

Crap! I do not agree with this virginity issue at all. Like they say, "Virginity is not dignity, but the lack of opportunity". Cheeky, I say :D

Sonia said...

It’s not easy to say. It depends from person to person and what they feel is right. Everyone has been brought up differently. And everyone has their own way of thinking and justifying the things that they do. It is not right for us to judge anyone. No one is completely wrong or right. Each one of us has ideals and principles that are different, and we mustn’t impose it on anyone else. Just live and let live. If you are the kind of person who wants to be married to a virgin, then you must remain a virgin and find someone with similar thinking. But I think that the process of checking on a girl’s virginity is pretty absurd and verrry one-sided. What about the guys then? Btw, how exactly can they determine that? How is it done? This test?

Łóòň Ġãĺ said...

I dunno...ma mom never sat next to me n told me all this stuff...but then i guess tiz pretty obvious tht she wudnt want me to lose ma virginity b4 marriage!
Though at any point of time...if i feel like goin against her...i'd choose the right person...not just with neone like a slut!

I dun think it's to do with my culture or anything...just the family upbringing probably.
And it definitely wudnt be animalistic to not to care...tiz absolutely natural !!

Most of ma friends in college...stay with their bfs and talk of sex or contraception pills at times...i kinda feel such an outsider then...but they dont think therez anything wrong with it, infact their parents knw abt it as well.

Ok am gettin late for college but imma get back to this....coz this is one question i hv been askin myself vry frequently.

Boldnbeautiful said...

Rightly said it is supposedly matters more to a girl..

partial world

KJ said...

very well written post, keshi, as usual.
Lemme know ur email so that i can email u the meaning of the songs.

thanks for the hugzzz

:-)

Łóòň Ġãĺ said...

I think some Indian guys are real assholes!! coz they need gals to have fun with before marriage....and for their life partner...they wanna look for a gal whoz a virgin n stuff! I wonder how much being a virgin matters to a guy!

@ If you trust and love your partner, is it moral to make love to that person, even if you two are not married

You have asked this question to me once on ma blog too ... if u remember.....

---> As of now i dont think i can choose the right person for myself ... so just making love with any guy I THINK i have fallen in love with would be really silly on ma part! But when in ma 20z, if am hooked plus if therez commitment and stuff ... i wudnt mind it ! Or God knows wht's instore for me ... lolzzz! I'm really scared of getting preggo before gettin married though ... ! lolzz

And yeah btw ... a few days back ... this Virgin Atlantic was giving some goodies ... which had a sticker saying 'I'm a Virgin'!! LOLZZ!

saby said...

When i hear the word 'Virgin'
it brings to my mind 'virgin sacrifice'




the offering to pagan Gods
and to man, the new God

alice said...

its all up to u...if u wana do it or not....being 16 or 6 doesnt matter...and why wait till marriage...why ...does marriage makes it sacred or something....
it doesnt matter...if u find someone with whom u r comfortable doing it...do it..thats all...

and yes all parents all across the world wd want to their kids to wait..till marriage...crap...

ahaan said...

Hi Keshi ....
How r u dear ....Glad to be at ur place after sooo long ....But sad cudnt read the post as the schedule is really hectic here ...
Anyways will be definately turning to ur words of wisdom pretty soon .

:-)
Bye
cya

Sonia said...

Hey AMITKEN, i think this is the guy who tries to act like keshi and not keshi herself.

AmitKen said...

Sorry Keshi!

I am extreamly sorry. i just read ur prev post and realised the truth behind that bizzarre comment on my blog.

such a loser this person is.. Sorry if my comment offended you.. that was not my intention.

southpaw said...

I dont think virginity is an important factor as far as my personal opinion is concerned, i wud not want a virgin in my life who turns out dishonest later on, i'd better look for the other factors and go ahead. Nice subject keshi, keep going!

Michelle said...

hmm...interstin topic...yea...i agree...no sex before marriage..i guess most indian families r orthodox when it comes to sex before marriage...sure u can use protection...but still thts not 100% safe right?

:)

hugzzz

Michelle said...

last comment wuz 99 lol cudnt resist to make it a 100 hee hee

saby said...

nutting.
WHACKS Michelle on her ass


i was first
i was hoping to be 100 too

niki yokota said...

oh i missed 100. shhh(^o^);;
virginity is kinda dead word in my country, i guess.
so i pay much respect to these ppl who are still virgin in their 20's.
ur future husband will be happy!!

Michelle said...

too bad saby...lol juz live wid it...so BLAH!!


hehehe

niki yokota said...

oh i missed 100. shhh(^o^);;
virginity is kinda dead word in my country, i guess.
so i pay much respect to these ppl who are still virgin in their 20's.
ur future husband will be happy!!

exasparater said...

sex before marriage is freaky. how one can neglect the virtues? virtues is the sculptor who moulds the clay (we the human beings) into a beautiful sculpture. certain things in life should be followed very strictly,likewise sex too.

may be this a rare sight to see a teenager speaks like this...

but i cannot forget the virtues taught by my mom and dad...

Drywall Mom said...

Saby, if you don't influence your childrens lives then you are asking for trouble, they do have their own mind and can make it up but if you can lead them in a good direction, why is that wrong, the only part is when they grow up make their own decesions and you don't respect them. I have a problem with my parents b/c of that. But still teaching your child morals and influencing them isn't a bad thing.

Rohit Talwar said...

i am from new delhi, india...

and everyone knows how it is here. even though rape cases are on a rise like hell..but who cares...there is still this taboo n jazz about sex before marriage...and blah blah blah..


i am not sure if this is going to make any sense....but i am just writing in what i feel...
many of my friends have already had sex...with many...for god's sake have one partner atleast! i hate them for this, somehow. just for the sake for adventure, they do it...and the whole thing really is disgusting..
before u think anything...lemme tell u what n why i think so....its cos...i believe, n i am sure many would (should) agree... sex is the final act... it is the closest you can get to anyone physically, mentally, psychologically... and until you dont love the person...how can u just have 'fun'? i mean....jeezzzz...donno what to write, really. but i have always believed....sex, whenever, is not a problem, but with whom, with what sentiments and feelings, with what level of commitment....


guys, donno what to write.....want to say a lot more but!!

cheers.

saby said...

, Drywall mom

http://imnutsincaps.blogspot.com/2005/11/my-children-wat-i-give-dem.html

,

Keshi said...

m000000nie huggggggz!

**the way n environment we have been brought up in is rather different than wat it is today...

very true...I see so many youngsters doing what they want...so independant and unafraid...


**pre marital sex was a strict no no then... but today india is opening up... people dont really bother about virginity ny more..

I heard that...that India is full on with all that now...it's kinda sad...altho virginity isnt a big deal, one must not forget the culture and it's virtues...especially the young ones...


**especially in the metros... n to b truthful i dont think theres nything wrong in pre marital sex... the only thing u should bother about is aids n unprotected sex...

so true...STDs r everywhere...prevention is always better than cure..


**but again theres a catch here... if u really love n care for the person its ok i guess... but when its just for fun or pleasure or a one night stand i dont think its right...

spot on m000nie!


**one other aspect id like to focus on is kids going for sex... specially when they r just 15-16 years old.. even if they 'think' its love id never approve of that...

yes!! That's what I mean...young kids these days r way too much..and they have mistaken sex for love...


**if ur mature (24 yrs onwards) then its nother thing... u know wat ur doing... u know where ur going... u know it could b 'love' n not a 'crush'... so then its ur life do what u want...

Exactly my point!


**i guess we in india should move on n forget about virginity being the epitome of virtue...

true...must not make ppl over 20 to remain virgin njust cos of culture...if they love someone deeply and if they r ready for it, why not...o.w. all will end up being 40yr old virgins or the only virgins in the cemetery...lol!

Thanks m000nie muahhhh!











Hey Icyblue :)

**lol .. I thought this scenario was only in India!! Definetely news to me :)

hell nah lol! Indian families in Aus r pretty much the same :) There are few exceptions tho...








Heyya Rita!

**Like they say, "Virginity is not dignity, but the lack of opportunity".

lol I agree hahahaha!









Hellooo Sonzzz!

**It depends from person to person and what they feel is right.

true...

**It is not right for us to judge anyone.

yes. it's ok to discuss but never judge ppl on their opinions...


**Just live and let live.

spot on Sonia!


**If you are the kind of person who wants to be married to a virgin, then you must remain a virgin and find someone with similar thinking.

I couldnt agree more..


**But I think that the process of checking on a girl’s virginity is pretty absurd and verrry one-sided. What about the guys then? Btw, how exactly can they determine that? How is it done? This test?

yes it's reall dumb lol! What they do is, when the wedding is over, and the girl and boy goes off on their honeymoon - on their first night together, the girl should lay a white sheet underneath her...so the next morning parents and relatives from the boy's side
arrive and check for blood in it....lol how dumb is that??


Keshi.

saby said...

only a child and a friend can tell the emperor

He has no clothes

Keshi said...

Hey Cheesy baba!

**i'd choose the right person...not just with neone like a slut!

LOL!


** And it definitely wudnt be animalistic to not to care...tiz absolutely natural !!

whoaaa Cheesy u r too good! That was a great blow to idiots who condemn ppl who have lost it...


**but they dont think therez anything wrong with it, infact their parents knw abt it as well.

They r in their teens?? Thats no good even if the parents approve...cos when we r in teens we dunno what we do...we r not matured enough to make such decisions...I feel sorry for those parents if they approved of what their kids were doing...


**I think some Indian guys are real assholes!! coz they need gals to have fun with before marriage....and for their life partner...they wanna look for a gal whoz a virgin n stuff! I wonder how much being a virgin matters to a guy!

true...agree wholeheartedly!


**I'm really scared of getting preggo before gettin married though ... ! lolzz

lol me too! hahahaha!


**which had a sticker saying 'I'm a Virgin'!! LOLZZ!

hey good one ;-) lolllz!
Thanks Cheesy bubbbbz muahhhhhh!









Hey B&B!

**Rightly said it is supposedly matters more to a girl..partial world

it is indeed a partial world! thanks girl :)





Heyyya KJ!

**very well written post, keshi, as usual.

aww thanks huggggz!

**Lemme know ur email so that i can email u the meaning of the songs.

I will, thanks :)








Saby...:)

**the offering to pagan Gods
and to man, the new God

can u enlighten me on that plzz...thanks.




Hey Alice hows it going?

**if u wana do it or not....being 16 or 6 doesnt matter...and why wait till marriage...why ...does marriage makes it sacred or something....

It's really upt to u alright...but I dun think one should go ahead making such decisions before they r 20+ like m000nie said. Cos when we r in our teens, we really dunno what we r doing...we mistakes lust for love etc...


**and yes all parents all across the world wd want to their kids to wait..till marriage...crap...

lol I know....but teens should not be given that freedom...









Hey Ahaan :)

**How r u dear ....
Hey Im just fine...thanks! And hows u? I guess ur busy these days...no worries mate...take ur time...and thanks for dropping by just to say that, I really appreciate that :) Cya soon and huggggggz!






Hey Sonia again :)

**Hey AMITKEN, i think this is the guy who tries to act like keshi and not keshi herself.

thanks for that clarification :)









aww Mich muahhhhhh!

**but still thts not 100% safe right?

damn right girl! Safety comes before anything else...thanks :)
hugzzz babeh!


**last comment wuz 99 lol cudnt resist to make it a 100 hee hee

yeyyyyyyyyy MIch is the 100th wooohooo! :):)








Helloooo Niki!

**virginity is kinda dead word in my country, i guess.

wut d u mean by that Niki? :) lol my furture husband will be tortured hahahaha!









Hey exasparater hows u? :)

**sex before marriage is freaky. how one can neglect the virtues?

I agree...thats why I might soon end up as the youngest and the only virgin in the cemetery lol! Just kidding there...I know wut u mean...

**virtues is the sculptor who moulds the clay (we the human beings) into a beautiful sculpture.

beautifully explained...thats so true...but the problem is does Virtue mean Virginity?


**certain things in life should be followed very strictly,likewise sex too.

I agree there..I mean one cannot just go abt having sex just cos the lust is there...there should be discipline and values...especially among teens...


**may be this a rare sight to see a teenager speaks like this...but i cannot forget the virtues taught by my mom and dad...

omg I only got to know now that ur a teen! CLAPPPPPPPPPPPPPPZ! Wow Im really proud of u Exasp - ur parents r so lukcy to have a child like u...they brought u up well...thanks matey!









Hey DrywallMom!

**Saby, if you don't influence your childrens lives then you are asking for trouble...

One has to influence their kids' life...cos if parents dun guide em, who will? But that doesnt mean forcing rule supon em...just guidance only...that gives em the foundation for good decision-making. I totally agree with u there Drywall...








Hey Rohit Talwar :)
Hope ur feeling better today...

**many of my friends have already had sex...with many...

thats disgusting! In Buddhism it's called Kamaya Varadhava Hasirima...means letting Lust rule u and behaving badly based on just Lust. U should try and talk to ur friends and explain to them that having too many partners is pure sin...


**sex is the final act...

that's such a valid point Rohit! I loved it. It indeed is the final act that bonds 2 ppl who r deeply in love...but if one uses it to satisfy the Lust then it becomes almost animalistic...cos animals dun have values...


**sex, whenever, is not a problem, but with whom, with what sentiments and feelings, with what level of commitment....

wow so well-said! U r wise beyond ur years Rohit and Im glad I got to know u...THANK U! Hope everyone reads ur answer...



Thanks all!
Keshi.

Łóòň Ġãĺ said...

woop woop ... howdy keshur babeh?

Keshi said...

Amitken heyyyy...

no worries matey...I read the fisrt line in ur long comment and knew u were mistaken...so I didnt read the rest - straight away deleted it...hehe...so dun worry, I dun even know wut u said there :) No need to apologise on behalf of that mad dog on the run...he tries every avenue to get at ame, but only he falls down at the end of the day :)


Take care and huggggggz Amitken..smile now :)
Keshi.

Keshi said...

Heyyyyyyyyyyyy Cheesssssy bubbbzy hows ya? Muahhhhhhhhhh! So glad to see ya hunnz!

howz u?

Keshi.

Łóòň Ġãĺ said...

fine o fine ... wut abt ya? early mornin blogging? lolz

Keshi said...

oh gawwd u blog maniac lollz...I just saw u have a new posty :) reading it...hehe..cute..

Keshi.

saby said...

Good and Evil both are needed in dis world\


Evil persons serve as an example for HOW NOT TO BE


but frankly i dont tink Richard Cranium is evil

it was a work of love delivered annony mousely

Łóòň Ġãĺ said...

haha Keshi i put it up this morning...tiz time for me to hit bed alrdy!

saby said...

all the rules in dis fucking world have been made by man in favour of man


even the Bible teachings of the law of Moses

where a wooman cot in adultery is to be stoned to death

no punishment for the man

Łóòň Ġãĺ said...

i wonder wht has happened to Saby ... he's quite weird ... saby arent you??

Keshi said...

Saby cud u stop sticking up for RC...Im sick of the way u brag abt an idiot - it makes me feel u guys r all in the same bunch...and plz dun bring LOVE anywhere close to that loser...he doesnt even Love himself...goshh u r so lost Saby just like him - forget it!

Keshi.

Keshi said...

Cheesy u know...Saby = RC I think :)

Keshi.

Łóòň Ġãĺ said...

awww is it????

Keshi said...

well look at the way he's supporting a dick head..

Keshi.

Łóòň Ġãĺ said...

i know it might b really irritating for u...innit?? havin someone comment in ur name!

plz RC, whoever u are ... don't do this to keshi ... shez such an angel ... i wonder why u all are afta her life ... but m sure tiz certainly not gonna affect her a bit ... so either u stop now or go on wasting ur time, u jobless jerks!

Łóòň Ġãĺ said...

i dunno....i dun think saby wud do that ... but ... am kinna confused ...

saby said...

Give the devil his due

Łóòň Ġãĺ said...

Saby, by any chance are u sleep-blogging???

*wonderzz*

Łóòň Ġãĺ said...

Keshi if u're coming up with a new post...put it now before i go to sleep...coz i wanna b the first one! :D

Keshi said...

Chessy its ok babez..thanks, ur an angel...

I might close this blog soon...not cos I cant handle the losers...only cos I wanna give em a lifetime break from their stupidity...


u go sleep girl...:) hugggz! lolz aww I dunno if I'll post a newby today..lets see but ;-)
Keshi.

Łóòň Ġãĺ said...

oh...c'mon keshi...plz dont say that...u're an inspiration for most of us, or atleast ... for me u certainly are!!!

i really will not b able to take that!!

and u know we're alwez there with you!!

u better DONT EVEN THINK OF STOPPING BLOGGING....!!! otherwise am gonna team up with all other bloggers and have some kinna strike ... lolzz!

Keshi said...

aww such alot of devotion from u...I luv u gal, did u know that...thanks hugggggggz!

Keshi.

Łóòň Ġãĺ said...

arrite babez...have a lovely day ahead!! muuuuuuuuahzzzz! c u l8er!

n bubye saby :)

Łóòň Ġãĺ said...

and i love u too baby!

Keshi said...

u too girl...muahhh and goood nite!

Keshi.

saby said...

CHEESY ASS NEVER FAILS TO AMAZE ME

i tot she hated me

saby said...

and now she says

i love u too baby!

saby said...

i hate her
i hate being called a baby

Tanvi said...

lol i still got my values..n i noe ur gonna tell me .. TANVI UR STILL A KID im happie u have ur valuez..lol but i dunoe i dun see myself takin that path netiem soon

Keshi said...

huh Tanvi?? LOL I wasnt gonna say that..I was gonna say...aww Tanvi u should be a bit more adventurous...lollls nah Im kidding...and Im happy that ur a great kid ;-)


Keshi.

Tanvi said...

im a great kid..AND im bored

saby said...

HA!



wat if i make u an offer u cant refuse?

an indecent proposal TANVI

Keshi said...

lol being bored is better than being dumb :)

Keshi.

Tanvi said...

lol kesh..entertain me..u havent done that in ages:p..itz been like a year now

La_Surrealiste said...

Milady (wink wink..shhh),
I think u bring up some mighty interestin questions here. I'm actually readin a book called "The History of Sexuality" by Fouccault. He says that this whole trend of repressing sex came with the shallowness of the capitalist class in the 18th century..leaving the brothel/whorehouse/insane assylum the only place where one can be completely free. I kinda agree!

saby said...

i am boreddd
was TANVI's trade mark line on chat


an invitation to flirt

Tanvi said...

saby u remember my trademark? lol it still is btw..
n uh no no no..no flirtin..im juz bored sheesh

Keshi said...

awwwwwwwww muahhhhhhhhh Masky WB! Missed u tonz girl!


**leaving the brothel/whorehouse/insane assylum the only place where one can be completely free.

whoaa what an intrigueing point...u always bring fresh wisdom to all...thanks girl!


plz come ard again ok...luv ya!
Keshi.

Keshi said...

Tanvi lol wut d u think my blog is?? pure entertainment na..hehehe..

Keshi.

saby said...

, La surrealiste,

http://imnutsincapsfreud.blogspot.com/2005/10/history-of-sexuality.html

saby said...

i feel like dancing Yeah
dirty dancing


wanna dance Tanvi?

Justin Thyme said...

Another great post and interesting topic, Keshi!

"When is the right time" is definitely a good question, and one that I think everyone has to determine for themselves. I don't think it is anyone's place to dictate morality to another. There should definitely be some kind of education to inform those "coming-of-age" of the possible consequences of their actions, but ultimately it should be decided individually by each person to decide when they themselves are mature enough to accept the consequences and responsibility of their actions.

Johnny B. Good said...

i love justine

Keshi said...

Justin no one could have said it any better , thank you!

Keshi.

Rahul said...

As far as my thoughts tell me, all cultures celebrated virginity and valued waiting till marraige. This brought stability to the system of marraige and made sure that lack of sexual prowess did ntt stand in the way of procreation for most of humanity. Increasing freedoms loosened the hold of morality and tradition, but the watershed event in the west was the advent of the pill. For the first time, sex and procreation could be separated definitively, and then there has been no looking back. In some ways, it will damage culture irrevocably, but evolutionary pressure no longer supports sexual morality, and so i believe the slide down the slope will keep continuing...

Nitika said...

world would be such a grt place to live if these...lust...virginity....and sometime..marriage too doesnot exist ... coz all fight initiate through this thing

as giving ma view...me always love to confined in the boundary of good culture.....but instead of convicting ma culture for not allowing such thing i would rather say ma heart is the one who don't like to break the norms and values of society...sex before marriage for me, is just like joining college before getting pass score in school leaving certificate exam... to interpret in a simple way.......kidding..hehehe.example was just for fun
but seriously i feel proud to be part of society where these thing still matter....there are many plp around me who fell in other way, opposite from ma thought and i do respect their views coz its our life everything matter the way how we perceive.

take care honey
luv u

AmitKen said...

hey Keshi,

Just a suggestion (if u have already not done so). Why dont u report this matter to Blogger. U can write to them telling how someone has exactly copied ur profile and is posting comments all over by your name. They'll delete the dummy profile which that loser has opened. go to "Blogger Help" and write to them.

Cheers!

Keshi said...

Hey Rahul..

*For the first time, sex and procreation could be separated definitively, and then there has been no looking back.

there indeed is a big difference :) Thanks Rahul!









Hey Niti :)

I come from a similar upbringing...but I think for myself...I neither blame nor glorify any value system or culture for how I think...it's soully upto each individual like u said. And I like ur example :) very clear one!









Amitken I'll email u soon :)




Keshi.

Rohit Talwar said...

I am so glad you agreed!

and thanks for the wonderful and generous lines...its a pleasure to know you, as well! (just a little though by all your posts)

Kroopa Shah (Kr00pz) said...

Personally, I would want to remain a virgin until I get married. I don't care what others do though and if someone chose sex before marriage that would have no impact on me. I just wouldn't do it thats all.
About guys, it is rather pathetic how everyone makes a big deal about girls not being virgins but no one really cares whether the guy is or is not a virgin.

snazzy said...

Gal or Guy, you can't generalize how important it is for someone to be a virgin. It is, as so many people said, left to the individual. Sure, there's more in print and websites that suggest or promote to say pre-marital sex is okay. But unless you are someone that can be swayed (immature; unknowing) by these, you are likely to use your own judgement and values to decide.

Now about a guy wanting to know if a gal's virgin, I would say don't read too much into it. Why don't you just dismiss the question much like guys would do? It is nobody's business but yours. So you could just say so and move on. Really, if someone were to ask the question there weren't worth it in the first place.

Gotta go, lunch time up...:-)

Have a great day. Hi to Mask and Keshi:-)

Keshi said...

My pleasure Rohit :)




Krooopz I totally agree with what you said...well-said girl!






Snazzyyy muahhhhhhh! So very glad to see ya here! How r things with u? All wonderful? ;-)

** if someone were to ask the question there weren't worth it in the first place.

Can anyone say it any better? THANK U mate!

Huggggggz to mah ex-husband LOL!


Keshi.

sukhanya said...

Nice blog you have here.. this particular post caught my eyes...

well i think it is more blue for girls coz for girls this can be verified :-) which I dnt think is there for boyz ... so it doesnt really matter for them to remain 'intact' as opposed to us.

tata
sukku

Keshi said...

Hey WC to my blog Sukku :) cute name...


Yes..its always girls who have to cop the blame, troubles and trials...duhhh men r such a pain in the stomach lol!


Keshi.