Thursday, May 1

On Your Mark, Get Set, Go?

WARNING: Some images in this post may cause distress to some viewers!

Following is a list of things that make me very sad, especially when the people involved are educated, able and supposedly-sensible people.


**When people give high importance to just one language

Ashu's recent post about 'respecting Hindi' in comparison to other regional languages in India (cos Hindi is the National language of India), really raised some interesting thoughts in my mind. What is Language? To me, it's a means of Communicating, nothing more nothing less. You may speak Hindi, English, Tamil, French, Sinhalese, Spanish, Urdu etc etc but no one should be asked to respect/learn/speak/understand one particualr language over others, just cos it's the national language of your country? I say that's bullshit arrogance, false pride and selfishness. Why should one language be given more importance than the other? Let people learn, speak, write whatever they were born into, whatever they want to...not what some strong nationalists want them to. Besides, what about the deaf and mute people? What language do you think they should 'folllow' and 'respect'? And what about the older folks who cannot easily learn a new language? I find it mind-numbingly shocking when people make such ruthless statements. Even Sign language is beautiful...so is Hindi...and so is English etc etc. Let us not make Language a reason to kill each other now (as if we don't have enough shit to deal with in this world). Please guys, get over your national pride, get over your obsession with your mothertongue...love it but don't look down upon other languages. All languages should be equally admired and respected.

Language is used to communicate, not to feel superior.


**When people look down upon other skin colors

Why do some people think that their skin color is the 'highest' of all shades? Humans migrated from many parts of the world to many other places, and respective climates changed our appearances, such as skin color, hair color etc. So what makes you think that the color of your skin is a God-given sign of Superiority? If that's the case then, different skin-colored people should have different skills. What say? Sadly for you, we are all ONE no matter what. We all have a pair of eyes, ears, a head, a pair of hands and legs etc and we all feel the same emotions...and we all have the SAME capacity to reach the highest of human abilities! No skin color has been given special mental/physical privileges. So get out of your rainbow dream and come down to Earth please! Cos in the end, this is what happens to all of us and we all look like this inside too (see pic).

Black or White, we all shit from the same end!


**When people 'protect' their Religion with guns

What is Religion? To me it's a set of beliefs based on your own upbringing, culture, personality etc. I don't have one particular religion, I respect all faiths and I pick the best teachings of all of them. I only have a way of life that I follow. I come from a Hindu and a Buddhist background, I went to a Methodist school, my best friend is a Muslim girl and I hang out with many people from many different backgrounds. If you're so desperate to guard your Religion with weapons and blast anybody who questions your religion, what's the use of your Religion mate? What good has it really taught you? Does your Religion teach you to blow up people? Wow, what a super nice Religion then! *rolling eyes*

If your religion is so great, nothing/nobody should affect you.


**When people draw mental borders in the name of patriotism

What is so great about countries? That they are all different, yes. But what's so great about hard-core Patriotism? Nothing. You may fight for your land, scream and cry, die for it even, kill others for it, but in the end your country isn't gonna die for you. It just sits in it's place on this Globe, it doesn't move an inch even. It just does it's job by being there on the map and enjoying it's own existence. You become the fool. If you really love your country, do something good for it..something productive...not something violent and certainly not something that embarasses your own land. Don't be blinded by patriotism that you forget humanity. Look at this pic of an American soldier in Iraq, carrying the dead body of an Iraqi baby boy...this soldier is showing true humanity here, not patriotism. Cos no matter what you try to do, humanity creeps in...especially if you have a heart.

True patriotism should break mental walls and erase all emotional borders.


**When a whole country is being labeled as 'racist'

I have seen so many people, even in Blogville, branding an entire country as 'racist'. During Aussie/India Cricket series, all Aussies were termed racists, sadly. Some called all Aussies idiots. And I have often seen all Sri Lankans being labeled as racists cos of the on-going Sinhalese and Tamil war in Sri Lanka. It's very wrong to generalise an entire nation as racists based on few people's callous and stupid acts. I say people who brand an entire nation as racist are the real racists. We have to try and understand each person from what he/she has to say..not from what someone else has to say. Look at this pic...it's a pic of 2 Bondi Beach life-savers in Aus...an Aussie chick and an Aussie Lebanese chick. How beautiful and loving some individuals can be towards each other!

Communities/lands aren't racist, individuals are.


**When anything Western is seen as Vulgar

Recently few favorite blogs of mine had some great posts about Cheerleaders in Cricket matches held in India, and the angry reaction from some Indians calling it 'vulgar' and culturally 'inappropriate'. Now I can understand why some Indians would react that way, cos Cheerleading is new to most of them. But what baffles me is this. Doesn't Bollywood dancing with gyrating, highly sexual body movements come from India? Didn't Kama Sutra come from India? I'm sure many Indians love Bollywood movies and enjoy them too. Nothing wrong with that and I like them too. But the moment something Western is introduced, everyone screams 'vulgar'! How strange. To me it's total ignorance and false pride. That's all. People need to get over their fake beliefs and realise that this is life...men, women, love, lust, sex etc etc. It's all a part of life. It's how you can handle it that really matters.

Don't try to deny the real things in life.


**When people never give up on hatred

There's an on-going War (for the last 25yrs) in Sri Lanka...my motherland. The Sinhalese and the Tamils are killing each other over a piece of land in that bloody tiny country. In Sri Lanka, linguistic rights of Tamils have been a key source of conflict, which has paved the way for the civil war and Tamil insurgency. Sadly, this war never seem to end...it has now reached to a level where the LTTE (Tamil Separatists) aren't asking for any linguistic rights anymore, they are now asking to divide the nation and run separate governmets. Neither of them want to give into each other, so there's a raging battle between the SL Army and the terrorists, killing many people every single day. The root of all this is hatred and sense of superiority. Why can't people just stop and see what can be done to help each other than go on a killing-spree for 25yrs? I find it very difficult to understand how a war can go on for that long without a single sign of peace. I lost 2 of my dear uncles (both senior Police officers) to this war as well. This is a pic of a weeping father holding his innocent baby boy's body (killed by a landmind), all cos of a stupid war!

Sometimes you've just got to stop on your tracks and let the other person win.


When I see such people and hear their words, witness their behavior and the results of their heartless acts, all I see is a Power Struggle... a blood-spilling race to be the First! All of us want to be right, want to be supreme, the best, the most admired, the most powerful etc etc...and that's the root of all problems in this world, and many innocents have to pay the heaviest price cos of few arrogant people. If no one else is asking you to live your life their way, then why don't you stop asking them to live their life your way? Grow up people, live and let live! You're not gonna take your language, country, skin color, race etc etc with you when you die. You just die.


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g-man said...

hm, i think english should be given some degree of importance, seeing as how we've got to communicate with the rest of the world. cliched argument, i know, but still...

and skin colour, well, it totally shouldn't matter what a person looks like, and not many people take the time to figure out what someone is all about.

i'm an atheist, and i've met a whole lot of people who've yelled and screamed bloody murder at me when they've found out. everyone bloody wants to argue that their point is the biggest one, and frankly, that sucks! sadly, this sorta thing comes up in the case of patriotism and racism as well. if people could just learn to respect others' points of view in general, this would be such a better place to be in.

n about that last part...we had gd classes concerning this topic. the argument i liked most was the one about our temples having effigies of apsaras baring it all. everyone was arguing against the mob's view. funny thing is, nobody makes a commotion about male actors/models/whoever in ads n stuff...

jitendra said...

the same thoughts frustrate me at times. I have never been able to understand 'why is peace so elusive a concept for some people?'

The Phosgene Kid said...

I'm sad, no Keshi pictures.

Prats said...

This was such a heartfelt post , Kesh. You are so honest, and I love you for that. What we think and never act upon.
You sid it right about languages.....there should be respect for all kinds of communication. Why single one out?

We just need to get more accepting and tolerant. Somehow I feel, thats missing in the present day.

Hiren said...

heavy post this ... totally agreee with you on each of the points mentioned ... and i m sure most of the readers here will ... but the thing is (i have personaly noted) when it comes to execution some of us educated people too tend to get on the other side when it comes to execution ...

btw when did u put up the posts abt the IPL cheerleaders ?? seems I missed those ...

have a nice day ahead ...

cheerio,
hiren

Ria said...

Such a thought provoking post keshi!!i dunno hw do u come up wth such beautiful posts.My heart aches when i think of all those ppl who get killed coz of some fanatics who say tht they r doin it in the name of jihad. But yes its wrong to hate a religion jus bcoz there r a section of ppl in there who like to create chaos and havoc. I mean wht will China get by owning Tibet!?its a small peaceful country....I fail to understand the reason behind y ppl fight over a piece of land, over religion, over money.....etc etc after all v r all gonna die someday and v cant take any of it wth us!! If someone had to ask me the worst invention so far, it wud hav to b nuclear weapons! Its strange tht man created such a thing which wud in turn destroy the whole civilization. Wonder who wud want to live in a world wthout human beings!

Whitesnake said...

The Battle rages On girl!

Ghost Particle said...

there's an Tamil guy who commited suicide here last month leaving behind a note saying there is nothing much to live for in this world.

Race, religion, politics and stupidity. sometimes we wish, we wish and we never get. thats why we all die in the end, coz nothing is bigger than this world. it will be painful knowing you and me might die and wont be important anymore, our causes a just one in a million more. the world will prevail, just wait and see. :)

of language, let them have all the Hindi they want, I am a linguist and I know which language is important and its not the national language, anywhere and in any country. :)

Cuckoo said...

Hi Keshi,
I have been reading all your posts but commenting now on this one.
I agree & appreciate your thoughts written here but I think you got it wrong what Ashu was trying to say.

I have also read Ashu's post. I think what she meant was national language should be above than any regional language/mother tongue, be it hers, yours or any other's.

It wasn't disrespect for other languages but respect for national language. It is another thing that national language happens to be mother tongue to some people.

T c

Keshi said...

Will ans all ur comments soon, ty!

I just wanna ans Cuckoo's comment first:

tnxx Cuckoo for ur views on this.



I dun think I got it wrong, it's ashu who got it wrong :)


**national language should be above than any regional language/mother tongue

when u say ABOVE THAN, what d u mean Cuckoo?



**It wasn't disrespect for other languages but respect for national language

So what exactly d u mean by ABOVE THAN then?


Keshi.

AmitL said...

Hi,Keshi...a very valid list of questions...albeit,no concrete answers,I'd say,since many of these fights and riots boil down to politics and politicians who want to keep issues like language,skin colour,killings alive and kicking,since it adds to their vote banks to have a 'mudda'(A topic to scream about).

Similarly,take the IPL cheerleader outcry-makes no sense having such double standards,honestly.At least the cheerleaders add a bit of zing to the game,which is what they are there for. If people's eyeballs pop out of their sockets,seeing them,fine!Let them look elsewhere-there's plenty of space on the grounds,definitely,where they can turn their lascivous gaze to!!hehe.
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Re. skin colour-I see it only too often out here.Mainly,the white-skinned acting superior to us-initially.:)Once they realize our capabilities,the attitude changes.Here also,the spoilers are people who still believe these whites to be 'Babus',and,bow to lick their shoes whenever they're around,figuratively speaking.Perhaps that's the rot that needs to be stemmed.
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I do pray,of course,that someday all your wishes come true-the world'd be a better place to live in.

Ashu said...

cuckoo, thanks for the comment. Keshi, i think cuckoo makes it clear what i failed to convince u to.

may be u have to understand that India is a country of many many races and many many languages. there is no official count of languages being spoken in india.

take a case of say America, most of the people speak English though few Latin American immigrants do speak Spanish, Portuguese and french. English being predominant in US, Spanish is 2nd official language in many states. NY/NJ has many mexicans and Argentine locations and u wud find signboards in English (national language) and Spanish (local language, which locals understand)...

i dont know whats in this to blow it to a major misunderstanding. In India we have so many castes and so many languages. Officially there has to be one language used across and thats Hindi.

And yes if you leave few fanatics beside (though u d count me in it too :)))), every one speaks in language of his or her own choice. and there is a peaceful co-existence.

About entire country being labelled as racist -- i think again few people did it esp media in India which is total shit and crap. People who understand game wont term entire country as racist. again that was a misinterpretation of what Harbhajan told to Symmo (an abuse related to mother), and it boiled to such an ugly row....

About SL, well i dont know much so wont comment. And can u believe Chuck is playing along side Haydo and Hussey in Chennai Super Kings in IPL (Cricket league). ISnt that a big thing. He who had pledged never to tour Australia again for chucking calls not only toured Australia late last year but is also sharing the same dressing room with Hayden and Hussey.

Thats what cricket does. Brings down the boundaries and makes entire world (cricketing) go together.

and if u r not convinced at the Hindi thingy, then let it remain as it is.

Jeevan said...

Language is to just to communicate where we learn, but by birth we all have some common languages like smiling, crying, loving...

"other skin colors" Our skin colors different, but we all one in blood.

"in the name of patriotism" I would like to tell, just being an patriotic that’s not we have to lose humanity. Only good thing is people couldn’t divide the air which they can’t see, nor we would be died enough already.

"never give up on hatred" In a narrow way only one vehicle can travel, if another side too has a vehicle to pass no one can reach.

What we bring to carry away with us...

sid said...

Keshi- thats a beautiful post!!!
Language is all pervasive and yet we need to respect all languages. But I guess it doesnt work this way- people in some countries(like the one I am in presently-*without taking names*)dont really care a damn about English, hindi or for that matter any other language & neither do they care about you if you cant speak "their" language. In that regard, perhaps,a little more nationalism in us for "Hindi" wont hurt us--so that we can give it back to them when they are in our land(rather than welcoming them in english/their language):-). Keshi, I hope everyone thought like you but unless that happens "language-pride" to the extent of it acting as a "barrier-to-communication" is going to exist!

SaffronSaris said...

HIya poppy doll, how have u been?
Moi's been totally swamped I haven't had the chance to come around and read, let alone comment :(
Good thing It's labour day today, so there's a lil respite...
Take care yah?

Mel Avila Alarilla said...

We were all created with individual differences and we should always take note of that. People will be different from each other no matter what we do. The best thing to do is to respect those individual differences and try to live with others in peace, love and harmony emphasizing on our shared values and likes rather on our differences. Thanks for the erudite post. God bless.

thoughts said...

Hey Keshi I so so agree with you .... ashu is just saying something whihc she wrote on her blog ...and she cant really clear her points ...SHE IS CONFUSED :)

I leave in bangalore and i am a punjabi .... I dont know to write Punjabi and i dont understand kannada ...that dsnt mean i dont respect any of these languages ....I know kannada is the main lang in Bangalore ...I dont hate that :)

Ashu except it that you wr wrong!!

High Five to you and XH :)

Take care

GuNs said...

I've had this discussion with a bunch of people before. It was about regionalism in India - Tamils refusing to speak Hindi and such. After a long and fruitful argument, we reached an agreement that learning any language that facilitates working , living and understanding your fellow man is a GOOD thing to do.

Since Hindi "IS" the national language, whether you or I like it or not, it makes sense to learn Hindi merely so you can communicate with Indians from other parts of India.

In a multilingual country like India, if every state refuses to recognise Hindi and speak only the language of their state, India would go to the dumps. We have enough people killing each other on trivial issues like statues of dead politicians being desecrated etc. We don't need any more non-sense like that. If you want to integrate as a country you need to have SOME things in common, one of which is language. If Tamil was the national language spoken by the majority, I would learn Tamil. If it was Marathi, I'd learn Marathi. Since it is Hindi, I've learnt Hindi.

-PeAcE
--WiTh
---GuNs

Tarun said...

Its sad but I see violence every where be it a small island in far flung Ocean or some bustling metropolis.
Peace is essential for prgogress if there is no peace there cant be any progress so people inflict violence to ensure other dont progress.
Jammu and Kashmir conflict for example, midle Easr South amercia easdtern europe,Indo-China, Africa u pick a spot.
as for language, if one should not undermine as well as try to prove ones (language's) superiority.
West ... well there is the hype.

Anjuli said...

Real thought provoking post....

but at times, we are also a part of it unknowingly, aren't we...

david santos said...

I'm sad,
Have a good day, Keshi.


David Santos

Clyde said...

A big powerful post from a beautiful woman with a wonderful loving heart.
My father was raised just off a major suburban road and would go to church every Sunday---a different one every Sunday and thats how I was raised---none of them are right and none of them are wrong---they should all give comfort to the people who believe in their teachings----and I havent found one yet that teaches war or killing or hate.
What is colour---all of us pale white folks keep wanting to get some sun on our bodies to change our colour. Our colour doesnt make us beautiful or superior.
Language---I will find a way to communicate no matter what language you speak or if you are deaf or mute.
Boundaries are only there for Goverments, not for us---we are all people and no one is a superior being---oh,except you
The whole world loves Keshi and I'm on the end of the line

the stygian sailor said...

*Black or White, we all shit from the same end!*
true, but some use water and some use tissue paper :)

*I come from a Hindu and a Buddhist background, I went to a Methodist school, my best friend is a Muslim girl and I hang out with many people from many different backgrounds*.get real! it is not about my dearest grandma keshi 'who accommodates everyone in her heart'. its about the people out there and their belief which has to change. my answer- don't believe in God

*But what's so great about hard-core Patriotism? Nothing*
hard core patriotism is basically nationalism. it worked in the early 20th century. but it cant work today when evrything is available on the net as freeware :)
so, if australia gives me a visa, i am fleeing this country :)

*I have seen so many people, even in Blogville, branding an entire country as 'racist'. During Aussie/India Cricket series, all Aussies were termed racists, sadly. Some called all Aussies idiots.*
sounds familiar ;)
its right, the label i mean. when players play for a country, they are the ambassadors. so its obvious their actions reflect on the nation.
there ll be millions of ppl who cheer for their every action. the label is totally spot on.
i am proud to say i come from the country which probably patented various forms of racism.

*Cheerleaders in Cricket matches held in India, and the angry reaction from some Indians calling it 'vulgar' and culturally 'inappropriate'*
this one i agree. cheerleaders are hot. i am sure the people who call it vulgar are swimming in drool pool of saliva, but they have double standards and ulterior motives.
i love cheerleaders.

and grandma,(should stop calling you granma )
i am proud of you. you have place for the whole world in your heart :)can i take the penthouse there???

Pavi!!!! said...

Keshi...i u'stand where ur coming from..

Language,skin color, religion, patriotism, racist people, western influence, hatred for people.... All of this is discussed abt/written abt. debated abt endlessly...n it wont stop soon..these topics will remain "HOT" for many yrs to come...

Now most of the people talk based on their LATEST experience...as well as sumthing that they have seen happen over n over agn.Most of us tend to get carried away wit out thots while writing and Not every1 has that command over the language..to be able to convert to words their exact thoughts. So it ends up sounding exagerated.Most people try to share their experiences and might seem like generalizing...but not all of 'em are essentially doing that (intentionally).
Do u get wat im saying?See im struggling to find the rite words here...

And to those ppl who genuinely blv in the differences between language, religion color etc...Wat can i say but wish they grew up.. FASSSSST! Like u said..Therez already enough shit to deal with in this Universe!

wp 2007 said...

Hi keshi

I know exactly what you are saying about languages. Here in Canada we have two official languages. That is everywhere but the province de Québec where you could get shot for speaking English. For the most part, the province does not allow any English signage while many of the other provinces must have both languages on their highway signs.

The war between English Canada and French Canada dates back to the early settlers. The province de Québec has nearly separated from Canada on a number of occasions.

Being the sadistic creature that I am, I love going to Québec in a car with Ontario plates. On almost every trip, someone will either curse us or make fun of us in French. Then we start speaking French just to watch the expressions on their faces.

Once, I was in Québec with a guy who spoke Spanish. He taught me a few Spanish words. When we heard someone cursing us, we started to speak Spanish. We beat them at their own game. It was hilarious.

LOL

Have a nice weekend!

I'll be away for a few days--not sure how long.

Bev

Jay said...

I think it's important for languages to be preserved. They're part of the heritage, culture and history of people and places. Not that any one language is superior, but there a lot of languages that get pushed out. That's kinda sad.

I'm also very disturbed at how many people are killed worldwide in the name of religion each year.

vEENs said...

Well! I seriously dint think so much wen I read Ashu's post!

and I as i said there.. I respect our National language...and we know it! and thats all does it matter!

Imposing it is wrong.

yur post is kind of an eye-opener... simple but with so much of material to think abt!

believe me... i abide by what all u said here!

i dun care who u r
where u frm
what yu do
as long as u lov me..
and I lov u!

badshah khan said...

this is gonna be fun ....will soon comment on this ....dont want to get caught at work blogging...

SamY said...

** Please guys, get over your national pride, get over your obsession with your mothertongue...love it but don't look down upon other languages. All languages should be equally admired and respected.Language is used to communicate, not to feel superior.

I am not sure if thats gonna get into the heads of those people. Coz only thing they are gonna do is counter argue this.

When people have no other means to feel better / important they go over such trivial things. Sadly much of the indian government runs that way. Like the supreme court of india once pointed out, the parliament spends more time in bickering b/w the leaders and non-issues which the politicians highlight to get noticed than resolving issue plaguing the people. Its the easy way to grab attention you know. The best treatment for such people is to ignore em. To let em live in their own world ;).

** If you're so desperate to guard your Religion with weapons and blast anybody who questions your religion, what's the use of your Religion mate? What good has it really taught you? Does your Religion teach you to blow up people? Wow, what a super nice Religion then! *rolling eyes*If your religion is so great, nothing/nobody should affect you.

Point of view keshi. Everyone wants to preserve the way of life. Religion is a way of life write by people of knowledge if the part. Unfortunately our people misinterpret for their own benefits. These people play with the weak minded getting them into believing into something else.

unfortunately the human mind is just too complex. once some ideas are seared, esp. when not to let it get erased there ain't much that can be done. Coz those minds have decided to resist change.

But one thing keshi. I don't think we should make such statements as what good is ur religion. I feel these are the statements that really infuriate people.

** To me it's total ignorance and false pride.

NO! Those people saying it are brilliant. Moral policing :D. They need to be important and to hold power.

I wonder if you've read atlas shrugged. In one place they explain how the government imposes impractical laws so that it will have out-laws so that it can have the power :D. Much of todays world works that way. The law needs the unlawful for them to stay in power ;).

Vulgar is their reason / excuse or weapon, whatever u wanna call it

** I say people who brand an entire nation as racist are the real racists.

Ahmm ahmm. Aren't you saying something about urself! LOL. Just kidding :D

People need identity.

Know what? Did you notice that nature works the same way. Survival of the fittest. I feel much of what happens is just in alignment with nature. Every species wants to survive, sometimes at the cost of anothers. Every creature feels its on top of its own pyramid. I think its survival instinct.

Yes, we'd say we have intellect and we can think about what we so. But in the end its about survival and ensuring ur offsprings flourish. Its unfair, but ain't that how nature works.

And much like in nature we form groups to ensure that our values are kept and we account for all those within out circle.

If it were possible to give a comfortable living to ALL humans on earth then mebbe we wouldn't have this many problem. But life always wants more than what it has :). Unfortunately in a world where resources are scarce it ends up being a dog-eat-dog world.

Like smith says in The Matrix. Humans being are a virus plaguing the planet. Living on the host until the host exists.

Life is so convoluted :D. So we end up living life for our satiety. What people get a satiety out of depends on various factors. Now am again getting back to square one *grrr*

aneri_masi said...

I thought a LOT about this post of yours. Its very sad, and all of these issues are something we are ALL aware of, we ALL hate, but somehow, its only getting worse with each passing day :(
I think we can summarize the root of all these issues to EGO.
MY language is better
MY religion is better
MY race is better
MY country is better
MY culture is better
I am the best, and you are a piece of shit. When you say that to someone, they retaliate back with the same set of responses. Ufffff!!! Will we ever learn to accept and respect and love the diversity we have in our world?

Why is it that with such a vast majority of the population of the world wanting peace, a handful of maniacs control what really happens? Why are we not able to overcome this beast? The fanatics are not afraid to voice their opinions, not afraid to "take action" for what they want, then why are we peace-loving people afraid, why don't we do something to stop them? Why are they more powerful, is their belief stronger than ours? Are they more passionate than us? I know I am a coward, the max I can do is "I agree, this is wrong", or write about it, but nothing to stop it :(
I have joined the "Save Darfur Coalition". But when they asked me to disclose my name and address, I thought about it for a bit...will this somehow create problems with my immigration case, will i be blacklisted, ridiculous things like that. I did sign up and disclosed my identity, but am ashamed to say I did a retake before I signed up. Coward!


Ahhh...too much thinking.

aneri_masi said...

oh crap, I wrote half a page of comments! and my browser crashed. I hope it got thru. I felt drained after I wrote it, can't do it again. Keshi please tell me it got thru :(

La vida Loca said...

Very good.
**My brains not working for more comments****

EmmaK said...

I agree, fighting wars using one's religion to justify the oppression of another religious group is obscene. Consequently I do admire Hinduism because it is the only religion that does not think it is the one and only path and respects all religions equally.

Cinderella. said...

Girl a very heavy topic !

Langugage is just a means of communication, and knows no barriers. So not language is small or big. But it saddens me when people dont acknowledge their mother tongue, just for the sake of stupid snobbery. I guess i have told you this before.

I ditto each and every word Gp said here about racism. I dunno when are we gonna mend our ways, and grow out of our suinted vision. Its not the colour its the life. We're all humans at the end of the day.

Religion is nothing but a creed. A faith. A stick tp lean on when nothing else can show you the way. i aint a religios soul at all, nwither do I much believe in the concept of God. But this much I believe, that our religion gives us a certain kind of identity, gives us the rituals we follow, that make our lives eventful colourful. Thats all.

*~*Sameera*~* said...

That was an awesome post!

The pictures of the soldier and the father were so heartrending.When I went to SL last month,a bomb-blast had occurred at a leisurely Sunday cycling race.The true effect of it struck me when I saw the uncensored coverage of its immediate aftermath on tv.As I was watching it dumbfounded with tears in my eyes,my cousin said to me,"You are seeing this for the first time,we are so used to it that it does not affect us any longer".

This love for hate,destruction,fanaticism,ego and inhumanity is terrible.Let's pray that people come to their senses someday before mankind is swallowed up by this destructive nature of certain so-called humans.

I whole-heartedly agree on the other points you have mentioned too!Hugsss

brute said...

phew!! some serious stuff out there...

Niyara - Asian Rocxs said...

its sad but true everything you've mentioned.

I don't see why any race, colour sees them selves superior to another. Or why english should be more superior than any other language.

But it should be coz im from england and your all speaking my language so HA ... especially YOUU kessshiii muhahaha

Joking!!!!!!!!! ;)

Solitaire said...

THANK YOU!

Such posts are needed time and again so that we get over our biases, prejudices, discriminatory attitudes, and what not!!!

Let's face it..in the end, nothing really matters.

Keshi said...

hey G-man tnxx!

** think english should be given some degree of importance

yes and it isnt a matter of RESPECT...it's a matter of being able to convey a message. Thats all a Language does anyways.



**the argument i liked most was the one about our temples having effigies of apsaras baring it all.

yes. Cos it's OUR culture right? LOL! As long as it's MY culture and history, it's all good...and if it's someone else's, then it's all VULGAR. Talk abt Hypocrisy!


Keshi.

Keshi said...

ty Jitterz!


**I have never been able to understand 'why is peace so elusive a concept for some people?'

I feel the same way. Why is it so difficult?

But at the same time, I kind of u'stand how these WARS start. Cos look at ppl like us..educated and supposedly-sensible ppl bragging abt Nationalism etc...so wut hope do we have!

Every little division can grow into big holes.


Keshi.

Keshi said...

hey Phoso!


**I'm sad, no Keshi pictures.

Phoso there r Keshi-pics in this post...look carefully.


The soldier who's carrying the dead baby...thats me too.

The Sri Lankan man carrying his dead son..thats me too.


Cos I feel their pain...


*HUGZ*

Keshi.

Keshi said...

ty Prats HUGZ!

**We just need to get more accepting and tolerant.

yeah thats right sweetz. But thats NEVER gonna happen if ppl like us (educated etc) promote nationalism. Thats my concern.


Keshi.

Keshi said...

heyya Hiren tnxx!


**when it comes to execution some of us educated people too tend to get on the other side when it comes to execution ...

I agree. We r not 100% perfect. But I really feel sad when ppl like us (here in blogs) try to promote Nationalism. Its dividing us all more n more.


btw I didnt write abt the IPL cheerleaders :) I was talking abt Sourish and Nirmal's blog posts on it.


U hv a nice day too Hiren!

Keshi.

Keshi said...

ty Ria!


** But yes its wrong to hate a religion jus bcoz there r a section of ppl in there who like to create chaos and havoc.

I totally agree. I respect all faiths and Islam is definitely in too. My best friend is a Turkish Muslim girl too. Its not the Religion's fault. It's the individual's religion's fault...meaning what each of us interperet the religion as.




**I mean wht will China get by owning Tibet!?its a small peaceful country....I fail to understand the reason behind y ppl fight over a piece of land

totally agree! I was so angry when I saw the riots on TV...how ppl were bashing each other up. It was a shameless act! Are these ppl gonna go with Tibet in their coffins? Some ppl dun even know what they r fighting for!



**Wonder who wud want to live in a world wthout human beings!

So well-said Ria! That statement sent shivers down my spine. *HUGZ*



Keshi.

Keshi said...

Steve I wish it was a Battle of love.


Keshi.

Keshi said...

hey Ghosty :)

Why did that Tamil guy commit suicide?


**it will be painful knowing you and me might die and wont be important anymore

I dun feel sad thinking that I'll be dead some day. Everybody dies and sooner or later we'll be forgotten anyways...cos by then all the ppl who knew us wud be dead too.



And abt Language...I cant u'stand why ppl feel so proud abt a National language. Wuts their to be so proud of?

I speak Sinhalese (which is the National language of SL) but I also speak Tamil and English (all major languages used in SL)..Im fluent in all but I aint gonna tell another Sri Lankan (say a Tamil or a Muslim) to go learn Sinhalese or respect it above others, just cos its the National language. That wud be very selfish and egoistic to do.



Keshi.

Keshi said...

Cuckoo ur comment was the first one I answered in this comment section. So please scroll above, read it and reply. tnxx!

I repeat it here again for ya:


I dun think I got it wrong, it's ashu who got it wrong :)


**national language should be above than any regional language/mother tongue

when u say ABOVE THAN, what d u mean Cuckoo?



**It wasn't disrespect for other languages but respect for national language

So what exactly d u mean by ABOVE THAN then?



Keshi.

Keshi said...

tnxx AmitL!

**Once they realize our capabilities,the attitude changes


Thats why we need to show racists who we are underneath our skin color. What lies beneath is what really matters.



Keshi.

Keshi said...

tnxx Ashu!

Nah Cuckoo's comment only shocked me more. She said something like:


** national language should be above than any regional language/mother tongue

ABOVE THAN? So u agree to that too Ashu? Thats again contradicting wut ur saying!

Ur saying u dun mean to disrespect other regional languages in India and at the same time ur saying keep Hindi ABOVE other languages. I dun get it..is it me or you and Cuckoo who dont know what they r talking abt?




**i dont know whats in this to blow it to a major misunderstanding


Nah u blew it out that shop incident into a major misunderstanding, not me hun :) U said in the shop they announced in English, and then in Marati. So wuts the problem? U u'stand English so u u'stood wut the shopkeeper said in English. So why r u blowing this simple shop incident out into a major Nationalistic problem??

Think before u speak Ashu.


Abt Cricket...yeah I agree, it brings ppl and countries together.


tnxx!

Keshi.

Keshi said...

btw Ashu n Cuckoo, u can hate me all u want but I really cant stand false pride on issues that neednt be issues.

Sorry girls!

Keshi.

Keshi said...

hey Jeevan tnxx!

**but by birth we all have some common languages like smiling, crying, loving...

thats a very beautiful thing to say Jeevan!



**Only good thing is people couldn’t divide the air which they can’t see,...

Thank God for that ha! otherwise ppl wud be fighting for sky space too!



** In a narrow way only one vehicle can travel, if another side too has a vehicle to pass no one can reach.

WOW wut a beautiful comparison Jeevan!


*HUGZ* ur a very special humanbeing!

Keshi.

Keshi said...

Sid ty!

I know wut u mean. Im not saying hv zilch love for one's mothertongue. What Im saying is not to use Language pride to belittle others.


**"language-pride" to the extent of it acting as a "barrier-to-communication" is going to exist!

Well-said Sid, that was brilliantly put!


Keshi.

Keshi said...

heyya Saffy HUGZ!

So this post was a great post for Labour Day ha ;-)

Take it easy!

Keshi.

Keshi said...

ty Mel!

**The best thing to do is to respect those individual differences and try to live with others in peace, love and harmony emphasizing on our shared values and likes rather on our differences

very well-said!


Keshi.

Keshi said...

ty Thoughts, I appreciate u sharing ur experiences with us here.



**I leave in bangalore and i am a punjabi .... I dont know to write Punjabi and i dont understand kannada ...that dsnt mean i dont respect any of these languages ....I know kannada is the main lang in Bangalore ...I dont hate that


Exactly my point! And if someone wants to use their language to make an announcement, so let em! Let them speak in the language they know the best. If someone else dun u'stand that, then get an Interpreter or better yet they go to a place where ppl speak the language they so value!


*HUGZ*

Keshi.

Keshi said...

hey Guns tnxx!


**Tamils refusing to speak Hindi and such.

nah Guns it isnt only abt Tamils not wanting to speak Hindi, it should also be abt others not wanting to speak Tamil..dun u think so? My point is why should Tamils speak Hindi? Just cos it's ur National language? Thats a very unfair call! Language is not something u can force upon an individual..it's a Birth Right!



**Since Hindi "IS" the national language, whether you or I like it or not, it makes sense to learn Hindi merely so you can communicate with Indians from other parts of India.


ah ah, whether we like it or not? Thats a ruthless way of putting it Guns! Wut abt the old generation? D u think it's easier for em to learn it? Also, how many Indians deal with Indians from other parts of India on a dailybasis to a degree that Hindi becomes sooooo mandatory?

It really depends on the individual Indian's needs and lifestyle. If u need Hindi to survive, to do ur job or u want to learn it etc, then yes u should learn it. If not, just let ppl be who they r.



**In a multilingual country like India, if every state refuses to recognise Hindi and speak only the language of their state, India would go to the dumps

why wud it go to dumps? d u know that Sri Lanka is in the dumps cos of this same issue? cos Sinhalese was made the National language and that was the first step that hurt the Tamils...and the bloody war now is 25yrs old with 1000s of ppl dead and gone, all cos of Language pride!

I dun want the same thing to happen to India.



**We don't need any more non-sense like that. If you want to integrate as a country you need to have SOME things in common, one of which is language

nah it'll only DIVIDE all of u more n more. Wait n watch.


Keshi.

Keshi said...

ty Tarun!


**Peace is essential for prgogress if there is no peace there cant be any progress so people inflict violence to ensure other dont progress.


Yes...and what is Peace? To me Peace starts from the individual. If the individual is not at peace, shit spreads.


Keshi.

Keshi said...

yes I agree Anjuli..we all become a part of the mess. But I try not to divide ppl more n more by bringing out nationalistic views.


Keshi.

Keshi said...

HUGZ Dave Im sad too.

Keshi.

Beach Bum said...

I have at time half-jokingly thought and wrote that Humans are not an intelligent species. We are clever animals but we seem unable to look beyond the surface of those not in our tribe/ethnic group/religion/or nation. Once when we were very scattered hunter/gatherers such a mindset was an advantage since the group that just crested the hill might just want to take your food and shelter. Now with six billion people and counting such a mindset endangers everyone. The question for humanity now is how we overcome our ancient fears and behaviors or how we become extinct.

Keshi said...

gee tnxx Clyde n HUGZ!


**church

my mum goes to church, Hindu temple, Buddhist temple etc etc. :) I kinda like it..cos that way Im in touch with every faith.



**What is colour---all of us pale white folks keep wanting to get some sun on our bodies to change our colour.

haha and some of us Browns wanna be lighter!!



**Language---I will find a way to communicate no matter what language you speak or if you are deaf or mute.

Spot on! what a beautiful thing to say Clyde.


Big HUGZ!

Keshi.

Keshi said...

heyya Stygian ;-)

**true, but some use water and some use tissue paper

haha good one mate!


** my answer- don't believe in God

THE best solution to all wars!



**so, if australia gives me a visa, i am fleeing this country

good one..so honest :) Im glad ur not one of those Indians who hide the truth behind a 'nationalistic' mask.




**i am proud to say i come from the country which probably patented various forms of racism.

:)



** cheerleaders are hot. i am sure the people who call it vulgar are swimming in drool pool of saliva, but they have double standards and ulterior motives.

yes its ppl who r seriously creepy and sick in the mind who falsely reject such things..cos they cant stand the heat LOL!




**and grandma,(should stop calling you granma )
i am proud of you. you have place for the whole world in your heart :)can i take the penthouse there???


hahaha my dear son, u shall then.


*arranges the penthouse for the kid's arrival...and takes out granma's vokda bottle*


;-)


Keshi.

Keshi said...

I know wut ur saying Pavi. But in blogs all we can do is read the post and comment on wut we read.

And the motive isnt unclear when someone says they r 'pissed off' by hearing English and regional languages being used in India, is it Pavi?


Keshi.

Keshi said...

heyya Bev HUGZ!

I know this language pride is everywhere! Sri Lanka is on a 25yr old war which stemmed from a simple language issue, can ya believe that!


**When we heard someone cursing us, we started to speak Spanish. We beat them at their own game. It was hilarious.

hahahahaha!


Ok hv a good break and come bak soon hun MWAH!

Keshi.

Keshi said...

ty Jay!

**They're part of the heritage, culture and history of people and places.

I totally agree. No one should forget/neglect their mothertongue but it shouldnt be used to belittle other languages or to feel superior.


ppl kill each other over small issues as this..and thats the saddest thing!

Keshi.

Keshi said...

aww ty Veenz and I love u too!

**Imposing it is wrong.

yes thats exactly wut I meant.


*HUGZ*

Keshi.

Keshi said...

ok Badshah tnxx :)

Keshi.

Suma said...

keshi, u've done it again...written a lucid post and a thought provoking one at that!!!

i've always felt imposing one language is wrong...

racism, hypocrisy, fanaticism...wish these words were never there...

tolerance is what we need and that is what seems very difficult to achieve...

Ashu said...

keshi der,

i dont know why u r sticking to one thing that Ashu made a point to make one language superior to the other.

Heck no girl. I dint mean that. i always said when u speak regional language (mother tounge) speak national langguage too. doing that doesnt make any language superior or inferior

Keshi said...

ty Samy!

**I am not sure if thats gonna get into the heads of those people.


I dun care if it isnt gonna get into their heads Samy, Im saying what I have to say :) Im not gonna keep quiet cos of what they might and might not do. At some stage in their lives, who knows, they might really think abt it.


**When people have no other means to feel better / important they go over such trivial things.

Yes I agree. An over-the-top National pride is for loners. Cos they hvnt got anything else to appreciate abt themselves.



**Sadly much of the indian government runs that way.

Its the same way the Sri Lankan govt operates. No wonder the Economy is shit and the war is going on for so long!



**Everyone wants to preserve the way of life. Religion is a way of life write by people of knowledge if the part.

Nope Religion isnt a way of life. Its a belief system that may be totally lies. A way of life is a philosophy which is cud be the closest truth abt life...nature for instance.



**Unfortunately our people misinterpret for their own benefits. These people play with the weak minded getting them into believing into something else.

I agree.




**Coz those minds have decided to resist change.

cud it be cos they r so unhappy with themselves?



**But one thing keshi. I don't think we should make such statements as what good is ur religion. I feel these are the statements that really infuriate people.


haha u got me wrong? I didnt question a specific Religion from that statement! I was asking what good is the RELIGION that he/she is demonstrating from their own acts. Im not attacking the entire Relgion, Im attacking the doer of the bloody acts. d u get it now Samy?



**NO! Those people saying it are brilliant. Moral policing :D. They need to be important and to hold power.

haha moral policing? Then they should ban Bollywood movies to begin with!




**Much of todays world works that way. The law needs the unlawful for them to stay in power ;).

o I see. :):)



**Vulgar is their reason / excuse or weapon, whatever u wanna call it

aha..



** I say people who brand an entire nation as racist are the real racists.
Ahmm ahmm. Aren't you saying something about urself! LOL. Just kidding :D


how d u mean? I didnt get that Samy hehe.




**Every species wants to survive, sometimes at the cost of anothers. Every creature feels its on top of its own pyramid. I think its survival instinct.

yes but Im not like that..does this mean Im not part of nature? LOL!



** But in the end its about survival and ensuring ur offsprings flourish. Its unfair, but ain't that how nature works.

but alot of us don't kill others to survive.


**And much like in nature we form groups to ensure that our values are kept and we account for all those within out circle.

I agree. But that doesnt have to spark wars.




**But life always wants more than what it has :). Unfortunately in a world where resources are scarce it ends up being a dog-eat-dog world.

true..



**Like smith says in The Matrix. Humans being are a virus plaguing the planet. Living on the host until the host exists.

so true! thats why Im sick of it already hehe.



**Life is so convoluted :D. So we end up living life for our satiety.

We all do that, unfortunately. Its a hunger that never gets fulfilled.




**What people get a satiety out of depends on various factors. Now am again getting back to square one *grrr*

I agree.



Ur quite knowledgeable abt humans and life Samy, wow I loved ur comment. tnxx!


Keshi.

Keshi said...

heyyy Aneri I got ur GREAT comment, full of wisdom, tnxx!


**I think we can summarize the root of all these issues to EGO.

Ego it is!



**MY language is better
MY religion is better
MY race is better
MY country is better
MY culture is better

yes its a bloody race that actually wud hv no winners.




**Why is it that with such a vast majority of the population of the world wanting peace, a handful of maniacs control what really happens?

OMG this is exactly wut I ask all the time! So many ppl want Peace and only a few r idiots, so why cant we overcome this?



**Why are they more powerful, is their belief stronger than ours?

I was wondering abt that too. U raise some very interesting points Aneri.

I guess its also cos tho more ppl want Peace, no one really does anything abt it. Everyone just keeps to themselves, cos of the FEAR of being identified as a Peace lover..and thats really a shame! Everyone is trying to save their ass Aneri.



** did sign up and disclosed my identity, but am ashamed to say I did a retake before I signed up. Coward!

no ur not a coward! Ur 'higher' than many of us here. U really made it point to do something abt it and u even disclosed ur identity. Thats a very BRAVE step Aneri, well-done Im so proud of ya! We need more ppl like u.


*HUGZ*

Keshi.

Keshi said...

U got thru hun @Aneri :)

Keshi.

Keshi said...

hehe LaVida its ok sweets, n tnxx!

Keshi.

Keshi said...

ty Emma!

**Consequently I do admire Hinduism because it is the only religion that does not think it is the one and only path and respects all religions equally.

yes and so is Buddhism and many other faiths.


Keshi.

Keshi said...

ty Cindy!

**But it saddens me when people dont acknowledge their mother tongue, just for the sake of stupid snobbery.

I so know that types. I hate that too. Just pretending like they were born in some other culture. LOL!



** stick tp lean on when nothing else can show you the way.

well-said!



**But this much I believe, that our religion gives us a certain kind of identity, gives us the rituals we follow, that make our lives eventful colourfu

thats right. Its imp to preserve ur culture but its so not nice to belittle another's.


*HUGZ* n ty!

Keshi.

Keshi said...

ty so much Sameera HUGZ!

**When I went to SL last month,a bomb-blast had occurred at a leisurely Sunday cycling race.

yes I read abt that too. I saw pics of the innocent cyclists b4 and after their deaths too. I was in horror shock when I realised how happy n relxed they were b4 the blast and how sad and silent they looked in death.

I can never forget those images. That day I cried.


Keshi.

Keshi said...

Brute yes, serious but very imp that we talk abt and try and see where we may be making mistakes.

:)

Keshi.

Keshi said...

hey Niyara tnxx!


**But it should be coz im from england and your all speaking my language so HA ... especially YOUU

LOL! So ur pommy gal is teasing me ha? *tickles ya*


Keshi.

Keshi said...

Thanks to YOU too Sol for taking this post in a very REAL manner.


**Let's face it..in the end, nothing really matters.

So very well-said!



Keshi.

Keshi said...

ty BB!

**We are clever animals but we seem unable to look beyond the surface of those not in our tribe/ethnic group/religion/or nation.

ur spot on there! That makes humans pretty dumb.



**Now with six billion people and counting such a mindset endangers everyone.

haha I agree we r not in the Stone Age anymore!



**The question for humanity now is how we overcome our ancient fears and behaviors or how we become extinct.

So true!


U raised some very interesting points there BB.



Keshi.

Keshi said...

And BB..

even in the 21 century we Humans remain as 'territorial predators'.

Keshi.

Keshi said...

ty Suma!

**tolerance is what we need and that is what seems very difficult to achieve...

yeah and we'll never reach that as long as ppl think in 'nationalistic' terms, and keep 'dividing' within their own countries.


Keshi.

Keshi said...

hey Ashu..

** i always said when u speak regional language (mother tounge) speak national langguage too.

why shud anyone do that Ashu?



**doing that doesnt make any language superior or inferior

It does! it only denotes that u r trying to force Hindi upon ppl who may not wanna speak it.

I dun ustand why u cant get that :)


Keshi.

τ ħ€ ĐάЎđяёάmёя said...

baby will reply to ur post from dep... loved reading it ... nd loved ur views..
m proud to have u in my life

*hugs*

Keshi said...

hey Bro hows it going? :)

*HUGZ*

Keshi.

krystyna said...

The best voice, the best post!

Thank you, Keshi!

Peace,Love and Harmony be always in our hearts and in the World!

Keshi said...

ty Krys!

Actually Peace and Harmony are the easiest to achieve yet the most avoided by MANY ppl.

Keshi.

Nirmal's Blog said...

a very good post.....it covers many problems...

but no matter wat these shit will continue....coz dickheads are born every minutes..

♥bμşγ-ŵŗϊŧēŕ♥ said...

Loved the post!
1. I think having some sorta universal language is necessary for convenience purpose. English undoubtedly. BUT, it STILL dones NOT make it 'superior'..just that it SHOULD be learnt, thats it.
2. yuck, i detest people who judge based on somethin so baseless as skin colour! I mean, HOW does it matter?! below all the skin, everyone looks the SAME!
3. yeah, exactly.. fighting cause of religion. sheesh, sick. okay, if some beliefs clash, just accept the difference. period!
And the rest of the points, I TOTALLY agree with you!

Again, a very very good post.
cheers!
:)

Vrij said...

Wonderful post.. all the points I believe in.

Racism is something I just cannot understand. Some are fair, some are dark, and it not because one is superior and the other is not. Fair ppl think they are superior, but anyone who studies genetics will tell us that dark skin colour is a dominant charecter and fair is recessive. And also, that darker u are, u are better protected from the sun's UV rays.

And does calling someone a monkey amounts to racism? Are'nt everyone of us descendents of the monkey?

Also, regarding the fight for religion.. why cannot everyone live peacefully? Why keep bickering about whose religion is superior or not? Are muslims or hindus or christians not suffering all over the world? Does any religion offer sugar coated benefits like free power and color TVs? Does Christianity pay the water bill or Islam cover one's expenses for dal and rice? Its such a sad world out here.. :(

the stygian sailor said...

btw
i drink only scotch and rum :)

Vest said...

I firmly believe colour of a persons skin white or other shades has little importance nowadays, it has never ever bothered me, however, watching my fav soccer team Portsmoth get beaten one nil by Blackburn United last week in England, the only white face in the Portsmouth team belonged to the goalkeeper. BLACKburn united only had six non white faces.
Multiculturism gone mad you might think, not so, as I believe dem white guys are not so skilful as most of the imported and local gents who are not white, and the big money men are obviously aware of it.
Fortunately I don't have any qualms about my racial status; originally, fair haired white anglo saxon , born London England, Language English.
Living in Australia where we have a mixed bag; even I have been on the end of the "Pommie Bastard" cliche, I sometimes retalliate by replying that they are jealous of my superiority.

Remember this. "No one can make you feel inferior without your consent".
Everyone. Have a beautifully colourful weekend.

irshad said...

Hi Keshi,

As far as I know for the first time you've got one fact wrong. The ongoing war in Sri Lanka is between the government and a rebel group seeking a separate homeland and not between sinhaleese and tamils. There are are 4 of us (good friends) who hand out together at work which includes one tamil and 2 sinhaleese. We tend to live in harmany without any religious prejudice.

Keshi said...

hahaha good one Nirmal!

U cracked me up big time with ur superb oneliner there :) tnxx!

Keshi.

Keshi said...

ty Busy_Write and I totally agree with ya too, on all ur points!

*HUGZ*

Keshi.

Keshi said...

ty Vrij!

**And also, that darker u are, u are better protected from the sun's UV rays.

haha yes!


**And does calling someone a monkey amounts to racism? Are'nt everyone of us descendents of the monkey?

true :)



**Does Christianity pay the water bill or Islam cover one's expenses for dal and rice?

very well said!

Religion doesnt feed our hunger.


ty n HUGZ!

Keshi.

Keshi said...

hey Stygian :)

In that case Granma gets ready with coffee.

Keshi.

Keshi said...

ty Vesty!

**Pommie Bastard" cliche,

thats so rude to say.


I hv often come across some ppl saying that all Curries r licking ass. Hell not this Curry! ;-)


Keshi.

Keshi said...

Irshad I didnt get it wrong..thats the real issue..between the Sinhalese and the Tamils (govt is mainly Sinhalese and the LTTE are all Tamils).

But I didnt mean it's between every Sinhalese and Tamil. :)

Keshi.

Vest said...

U S Senator George McGovern A racist asshole once said, "I won't mind being reincarnated as an Ape as long as that ape is an Albino.

svui said...

Hey Keshi,
I agree with Irshad...
If you dont mind, whats your home town in Sri Lanka?

irshad said...

Hi Keshi,

Thanx you again for the prompt reply. I really appreciate it.

If you go by the argeument:
"between the Sinhalese and the Tamils (govt is mainly Sinhalese and the LTTE are all Tamils)", is the war between US vs Afghanistan/Iraq, a war by the Christains against Islam.

I don't think so my friend. The problems will intensify if we try to racialise.

Rgds, Irshad

Keshi said...

Vesty that was a mind-numbingly PATHETIC statement by him. LOL!

Keshi.

Keshi said...

Hi Svui :)

My hometown in SL...what for? does it matter?

Keshi.

the stygian sailor said...

then Irish coffee it is :)
duh, what a boring line of thought. catch you some other time.
me going to practice my religion, cricket :)

Keshi said...

Irshad all Wars are between Govts and Terrorists..but they all stem for RACIAL/RELIGIOUS differences between common ppl like us. dun forget that!

Keshi.

irshad said...

Hi Keshi,

Did the first/second world wars and the american civil war trigger because of racial prejudice. I don't think so.

Rgds, irshad

τ ħ€ ĐάЎđяёάmёя said...

When people give high importance to just one language..

I always support the fact..language is for communication not for showing the intellect

When people look down upon other skin colors
I don't care much..though liking for fairer skin is always there but m not obsessed

When people 'protect' their Religion with guns
I always maintain that religion is for the man to practice not the vice versa

When people draw mental borders in the name of patriotism.
I don't agree wid you..if u don not protect ur boundaries wid aggression u will be under foren control again ..

**When a whole country is being labeled as 'racist'
that's stupidness..every person has differnt opinions u can't label all due to a few "

When anything Western is seen as Vulgar
khikhikhi..thats cliche of the cliches :P

τ ħ€ ĐάЎđяёάmёя said...

sissy...gave so many comment :)
i liked ur post..it was so good after soooooo long :P


oops means it was best post among the good one :P

Iceman said...

no answers for these question...
its only sad that we dont want to find an answer...

irshad said...

Hi Keshi,

War happen maily becoz of 2 reasons.

01. Ideas - religious, political, racial, social motives.

02. Material motives - gains for the leadership, gains for the masses.

Rdgs, Irshad

Rdgs, Irshad

Keshi said...

hey Irshad

**Did the first/second world wars and the american civil war trigger because of racial prejudice. I don't think so.

mebbe not but who knows for sure where they all started?

Besides, Im a Sri Lankan and I have lived there, associated both Sinhalese and Tamils, and I myself come from a home where my dad is Sinhalese and my mum is Tamil...

I dun mean to say every Sinhalese and every Tamil is at war with each other. But this WAR started with racial differences.


Keshi.

Keshi said...

ty Bro u raised some really interesting points wow!


**I always maintain that religion is for the man to practice not the vice versa

Spot on! Good one.



**I don't agree wid you..if u don not protect ur boundaries wid aggression u will be under foren control again ..

I u'stand that. What I meant was over patriotism that leads to MENTAL borders...not physical borders :)

*HUGGGIZ*


Keshi.

Keshi said...

aww tnxx Bro!

:)

Keshi.

Keshi said...

ty Iceman!

**its only sad that we dont want to find an answer...

exactly!

And some ppl dun even wanna talk abt it. Thats so sad indeedz.


Keshi.

Keshi said...

ty Irshad, and I know that.

And in Sri Lanka it's a RACIAL war and thats what I meant by Sinhalese/Tamil war. Tho its between the Govt and the Separatists at the moment, it's origin was racial...and still continues to be.


Keshi.

irshad said...

Hi Keshi,

Even the wars for materialism is based on racism, patriotism or religion. Unless, it is sentimetal people won't mobilise for a war.

I respect and your thoughts and it seems logical as well.

btw, did I say that I am extremely happy to read a fantastic blog of a fellow countryman (or rather, country woman) of mine.

Keshi said...

hey Irshad tnxx!

And ur originally from SL? WOW Im pleased to know that too :)


Keshi.

aneri_masi said...

keshi, can I request you to do something? can you go to this website every once in a while and just "click" on all those buttons? It might help someone! There are a lot of causes they support, check out all the tabs.

http://www.thehungersite.com

I had sent it to a few friends before, most did not reply, one did, saying he will definitely visit as often as he can, and one disgustingly tried to justify why he will not do it. In spite of it being free to him, and taking up not more than 1 minute a day :(

Keshi said...

yep Aneri I go there all the time. tnxx hun MWAH! Choco suggested it to me long time ago.


**and one disgustingly tried to justify why he will not do it.


omg thats so sad! ppl r unbelievable!


*HUGZ*


Keshi.

badshah khan said...

yep Finally I get time to share my views and thereby learn and correct myself.
I give special importance to my mother tongue. I have no liking nor interest in propogating any other language but i appreciate all language as each have their own flavor.
people always give more preference to English in todays world just because it is the most widely spoken language in the world. It is the business language and to get your point across to a wider range of people U have to adopt it.Now coming to Hindi As we all know India being a place with many languages and different religion There are hardly any common points amongst the people in different parts especially in south and North.I am not being a regionalists oe something but this is a fact. When a national or common langauge was picked up there were many nominees as there are some intresting and amazing langauges but Hindi was picked mainly becuase it was widely accepted. Now You might like Hindi or not but You need to respect it as a national language and what pisses me off is people neglecting it, not even neglecting but even hating it. They still don't accept this because they feel it as a insult to their regional language. When you have all over India, English as primary language, hindi as the secondary and the regional as the third. Things are different In the South and especially TamilNadu. I just say so boldy because its my state.Again this doesnt mean ALL but a high proportion. Its like my hands one day start saying that its more important than my entire body and start agitating. seeing this tomorrow my eyes will say that those are the most important part and not co-operate. At the end of the day a man who could have been so productive turns out to be utter nonsense. And seeing this now we have many states where the language system i said is not followed. I mean if English is used through out the world doesn't mean that it is the best langauge around. so my point is if I have willfully accepted my self as a tenant in an society I have to follow the rules of the society unless the rules are really stupid and if they are I need to make them realise and justify why they are stupid and try to get the right rules in place.Its like my captain may not be the best player in the Team but he deserves some special place in the Team.

Again this thing(skin color) I feel is something ridiculous. I almost agree with wotever you say. Again i might like a particular color that doesnt make that color superior. Or just becuase more people like it it doesnt become superior.

religion i guess is the Thing a that drives nations crazy.I always feel the people who created religions did so to make Life better during their point of time. Eventually with time their always was some kind of modification needed which wasnt properly done.And all these great people who created this religion never took into consideration that there could be some other better way or alternate way and even if they thought they never mentioned it just because.
I always feel everyone knows everything its just few people really think about all the outcomes before they do and actually dont do and few people make the wrong choice and do. DO here refers to being racist or labelling racist,draw borders and never give up on hatred.No body likes pain but instead of adjusting and coming in par with everyone Few people comfort themselves or their kind by hurting others.

I guess just a rush of emtions. tommorow is gonna be the same old day.same bickering same brawling same fight and same cry.becuase no insane person is gonna read this and the one who is gonna read is already sane.

elusive said...

U got some heart-wrenching pictures there keshi. And this post is relevant to all the serious issues that plague our world today. I agree wit most things tat u said here. Most thigns n not all coz somewhere I believe language is a way of communication true, but it;s also something that brings people together. English is given much deserved importance - why? Coz today it's a global language that gets people all over the world together. Similarly if two illiterates here in india need to communicate it's always easier to do so in hindi. It's got nothing to do with pride it's a matter of convenience. Also I like your train of thought on how humanity should be put above everything else. I completely agree on this. The thigns that you see on tv, cozying up on your couch at home make ur guts squirm. There are people falling prey to violence everyday every minute and there's nothing you can do about it but watch it on news and change the channel instinctively to avoid all the blood n gore. But it's only the victims who go through such crap know the pain. U me can do nothing about it but watch. One feels pretty much helpless.

elusive said...

OMG badshah khan u had your own post there :p you cud publish it on ur blog u know..save u much pain to update ur blog :p

Anaha said...

Just chanced upon your blog, great stuff going on here. :)

I am in total agreement of your thoughts in this post.

"Hindi as the national language should be above than any regional language/mother tongue"...This sentence is nothing but faulty. Declaring Hindi as the national language is a baseless ignorance some people are exhibiting.

To quote from wiki.."The Constitution also allows for the continuation of use of the English language for official purposes. Article 345 provides constitutional recognition to "official languages" of the union to include any language adopted by a state legislature as the official language of that state. In effect, there are "official languages" at the state and center level but no one "national language". Kindly ask ashu to read the facts before putting forth such useless/ridiculous arguments.

Peace. :)

Pavi!!!! said...

@keshi.. yes "Pissed off" does convey a lot abt ones thoughts.
I think in that discussion, people got carried away Keshi.

Ur aim was to say what u feel abt sumthing and try make ppl u'stand abt it rite?I think U n Xh have done that very clearly. U have opened up several minds(including mine). Now some ppl will accept that their mind is opened up n some wont...They either get into the defensive mode(even tho they begin to see the point ur making) or simply refuse to think in any direction that is diff from their original train of thot...Its human, it happens.
U can't do much abt it. So we just have to rest the case after having said our thots.

Sweetstickychewy said...

Great post! Many are forever putting pressure on other cause they are feeling pressured themselves. I would like to think thats common and pretty natural but than again very miserable and upsetting. This is juz how the world roll.

Some of us can do something about it and some of us can just follow blindly.

But i have to agree with you to each his own. no one has a right to demand their beliefs over others.

***no one should be asked to respect/learn/speak/understand one particualr language over others, just cos it's the national language of your country?

i agree with you. I had an encounter with a workmate recently who insist that only indian songs are the best in the world. It irritated me when he expects me to think the same way as him. haiz..

Take care sweets.;)

Cuckoo said...

Oh I think I am late !!
Anyways, Keshi, I still think you got it wrong what Ashu was trying to convey and I'll stick to it. I don't have anything against you or her but later the way you said...

"btw Ashu n Cuckoo, u can hate me all u want but I really cant stand false pride on issues that neednt be issues." really hurt me. Did I mention anything like that to you Keshi ?

It was her view and I was trying to convey to you the meaning.

All kind of people live in Indian metro cities, poor and rich.. literate/illiterate and so on...
There is always a percentage who does not understand the local language or another % for English and so on.
What's wrong if they announce in English, Hindi and the regional language ? Why so much hue & cry over that ?

Anyways, it is wrong to think or expect that everybody will agree with you. She has put her views on her blog and you have put yours.

So, chill girl !!

Enjoy :-)

Keshi said...

ty Badsha that was an interesting view.


**Now You might like Hindi or not but You need to respect it as a national language and what pisses me off is people neglecting it, not even neglecting but even hating it.

what is RESPECT here? And what is NEGLECTING here? And lastly what is NATIONAL?


I agree on all ur other points mentioned abt racism etc.



**becuase no insane person is gonna read this and the one who is gonna read is already sane.

not really Badshah. There r alot of INSANE in blogville too. :) Maybe not murderers and terrorists, but ppl who think only from their point of view. And thats enough to draw borders.


Keshi.

Keshi said...

I agree Pavi, theres nothing much I can do to make the way others think. But I just expressed how I felt abt it and I love expressing :)

tnxx hun!

Keshi.

Keshi said...

Elsuive tnxx hun!

**Similarly if two illiterates here in india need to communicate it's always easier to do so in hindi. It's got nothing to do with pride it's a matter of convenience.


I agree but if it's a matter of Convenience, then why cant those ppl use the language thats CONVENIENT to them? :) as simple as that. Why make National languauges and make it mandatory etc? I mean Hindi is 'easier' for some ppl...but not for not ALL.


Keshi.

Keshi said...

haha Elusive its ok I like long comments :)

**OMG badshah khan u had your own post there :p you cud publish it on ur blog u know..save u much pain to update ur blog

but yes I wish he wrote more on his blog cos he never updates it. hehehehe ;-)


Keshi.

Keshi said...

Anaha hey WC n ty!


**This sentence is nothing but faulty. Declaring Hindi as the national language is a baseless ignorance some people are exhibiting.

I know that some countries hv this 'National' language being forced upon ppl and thats what I dun like...I dun like demanding.

Here in Aus the main language is English but u should see how much they value other languages too. They even have written Driving Tests in Chinese, Greek etc for ppl who dun really speak English.

Language is just a concept of conveying a message..thats all that matters. RESPECT and PRIDE should be mixed with it.



**To quote from wiki.."The Constitution also allows for the continuation of use of the English language for official purposes. Article 345 provides constitutional recognition to "official languages" of the union to include any language adopted by a state legislature as the official language of that state. In effect, there are "official languages" at the state and center level but no one "national language".

ty for that great piece of information Anaha! And it makes very good sense.



**Kindly ask ashu to read the facts before putting forth such useless/ridiculous arguments.

I dunno if Ashu and some others r speaking w.o. thinking what the common man wants..instead they seem to think in terms of NATIONAL pride.


tnxx Anaha u raised some good points!


Keshi.

Keshi said...

ty Amy MWAH!

**I had an encounter with a workmate recently who insist that only indian songs are the best in the world. It irritated me when he expects me to think the same way as him..

He must be some self-righteous ego maniac. The best thing to do with such ppl is, u should tell em this:

"yeah I loved Indian music until I met u"


Keshi.

Keshi said...

ty Cuckoo!

U still didnt answer the qn I asked u in my first comment reply, which was:

when u say ABOVE THAN, what d u mean Cuckoo?

:)



**What's wrong if they announce in English, Hindi and the regional language ? Why so much hue & cry over that ?

No one's losing their marbles over this except Ashu :) She's the one who was 'pissed off' that the shop didnt make the announcement in Hindi. Nothing's wrong with Hindi or English or Marati being used, as long as ppl r comfy with wut they speaking. We dun hv a prroblem. It seems u and Ashu do. :)



**Anyways, it is wrong to think or expect that everybody will agree with you.

did I say she has to agree with me? I dun think I wrote such a line in this post at all. This is my view, just like that was her views. We hv agreed to disagree and have moved on too.


**chill

I dunno why u and Ashu keep telling me to chill. LOL Im prettty chilled. Its the nationalists who r 'pissed off' that need to chill, not me.


Keshi.

badshah khan said...

"what is RESPECT here? And what is NEGLECTING here? And lastly what is NATIONAL?".... I guess treating it as any other language and not consider it as a language that might pose threat to the existence of the regional language. Neglecting as in boycotting its use in schools, making MORCHAS against its use and abstaining its use completely. And by NATIONAL I guess national means nation wide.

Keshi said...

ty Badshah!

**RESPECT
** I guess treating it as any other language and not consider it as a language that might pose threat to the existence of the regional language.


ok but if u want Hindi to be treated as ANY OTHER language, then why IMPOSE it? ppl think of it as a THREAT only when its being FORCED upon em.




**NEGLECTING
**Neglecting as in boycotting its use in schools, making MORCHAS against its use and abstaining its use completely.

Does it matter what some ppl choose to do? Its their actions and their own consequences. How does it affect u or any other Hindi speaking person?




**And by NATIONAL I guess national means nation wide.

I agree. But just cos it's NATIONAL, it doesnt have to be forced upon ppl. And from Ashu's post, she was EXPECTING and strongly DEMANDING that that shopkeeper announced in Hindi too. And thats not right. They spoke what they u'stood and perhaps what they think was FIT for their customers.


Dun u think so Badshah?


Keshi.